Author Topic: hoe'ers (Read 2206 times)

mars01 · « **Reply #60 on:** August 03, 2004, 01:59:31 PM »

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If that is the case you would be a dead pilot quick. Its different when your playing a game versus playing with your life. I highly doubt you would stand on one end of a field with a machine gun stand in the open, with another dude on the other end...and fire at each other till one died. Would be the same thing, neither makes sense. You rarely see the HO when you play in SE arena with one life. There is no consequence to death in this game, thats why you see so much reckless attitude in the MA.

You would be suprised how many pilots did ho. I just finished Blacksheep One and it mentions Boyington taking a Head On shot and winning more than once.

simshell · « **Reply #61 on:** August 03, 2004, 04:46:48 PM »

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Originally posted by FT_Animal
I have some going up VERY soon.

But try this,....
Everyone mentions the nose under, but never really finish the ACM text.

I do 1 of 3 things depending. Granted, this worked alittle better in AW because the HO hit bubble was smaller, but still, this should help.

Keep your your nose right on him, as if playing chicken. JUST before you come into gun range nose down, not a lot but you want to go well under him, don't worry about where he's going yet. As you pass under you are now in a blind spot, he has NO idea exactly what you are doing. I usually slightly nose down at about 1,200 dist. Also at this point your E is building, his isn't if he doesn't nose down too.

As you go under him\her watch the bottum of their plane, because what you want to do is yank that stick up just as the tail passes over you. You want to come up REAL fast and just missing the tail. That building of E you got from nosing down comes in handy right now, because now you are faster then him. The most he MAY see of you is if he rear views, and all he's MAY see is you shoot straight up behind him, most of the time they never see this happen. When you just miss the tail you know your timing is OK, key factor.

NOW you are above him, keep pulling the stick back until you become inverted over him. He's may try to nose down for E, if not he's yours that much quicker. You're going to see that you are now way above him, inverted and looking down on him like a vulcher.

While inverted, you look up, which is actually down at him. Now, no matter what he does you see where he's going and you roll back up-right in his direction, now you're on his 6. Even if he trys to roll out, you can still park your nose on his 6. Sometimes you'll pull this off inverted.

You must do all of this VERY quickly as to retain the E you got during nose down.

Now that you are above him and roll onto his 6 you are nose down again, and building more E on top of what you already have. You'll close in on him pretty quickly.

Retainging the E from the first build until the next build is essential

basically you're going to sissor him for HOing you. ;-)

PRACTICE this move until timing is perfected. You will not believe how many HOs become honest kills using this method.

And yes, I have pulled this off in AH before.

Another that I would call an escape is to barrel roll out just before in range, roll under him and shoot off to a side. Don't give the punk the satifaction of the HO.

o yes ran into a Yak that tryed this and i riped his wing off with his nose dive 20mms work well for this move trying to get out of my HO shot

tho the best way to defeat a move like this try this
if your flying a plane with alot of speed or a P38 when he trys to come up at you just point your nose up and rope him he will only have 2 choices now get roped or brake and run

have a nice day:)

FT_Animal · « **Reply #62 on:** August 03, 2004, 08:25:53 PM »

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Originally posted by simshell
o yes ran into a Yak that tryed this and i riped his wing off with his nose dive 20mms work well for this move trying to get out of my HO shot

tho the best way to defeat a move like this try this
if your flying a plane with alot of speed or a P38 when he trys to come up at you just point your nose up and rope him he will only have 2 choices now get roped or brake and run

have a nice day:)

So, not only do I not beleive a word you wrote, I find it real lame that you pride yourself on HO shots.

HO shots are for newbies who ain't got a clue so it's their only way to get a kill.

I don't care for face shooters it's worthless and weak, and skilless.

Congrats!

68DevilM · « **Reply #63 on:** August 03, 2004, 08:41:55 PM »

jusy did a ho tonight, and hey some people are right it is a easy way to kill someone fast:D

but i still perfer to pass once

FT_Animal · « **Reply #64 on:** August 03, 2004, 09:00:48 PM »

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Originally posted by 68DevilM
jusy did a ho tonight, and hey some people are right it is a easy way to kill someone fast:D

but I still perfer to pass once

Translated: "perfer" but will take it anyways.

Yall complain non-stop about game play in the MA?

I'm not sure I've ever seen so many hypocrit whiners before. It amazes me.

No wonder only 10% of the players read or post here. 50% of that 10% are full of themselves.

damn baby seals, they're so pesty.

68DevilM · « **Reply #65 on:** August 05, 2004, 05:14:12 PM »

hoed fariz today!:cool:

he needed it, was kicking our butt:lol

Redd · « **Reply #66 on:** August 05, 2004, 06:11:20 PM »

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Originally posted by FT_Animal
So, not only do I not beleive a word you wrote, I find it real lame that you pride yourself on HO shots.

HO shots are for newbies who ain't got a clue so it's their only way to get a kill.

I don't care for face shooters it's worthless and weak, and skilless.

Congrats!

They should be all made to fly 50 cal planes for the first 6 months. They get in the big cannon planes and fly around jousting HO's left, right and centre. You learn to avoid Ho's pretty quickly when you only have 50 cal to fire back with.

There are so many doing it I now expect a HO attempt on every merge, and am actually surprised if they don't shoot. Used to be the other way round.

My favourite defense is nose low, partly because every so often one follows you down - goes for the HO , compresses and lawn darts in - that'll make my day every time

FT_Animal · « **Reply #67 on:** August 05, 2004, 06:21:40 PM »

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Originally posted by 68DevilM
hoed fariz today!:cool:

he needed it, was kicking our butt:lol

Ya know, you could keep that striped ball twirling on your nose if you hold your tongue juuuuust right.

baby seals take a while to learn that at first.

kevykev56 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 05, 2004, 08:26:10 PM »

There is one HO I love...its the one when the Vultures are circling and you up a brand new Hurricane IIc and blast him in the face when he comes down to straffe you. All that vulture tastes is lead, right in the beak! Only HO I find acceptable

RHIN0

sax · « **Reply #69 on:** August 05, 2004, 09:22:50 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
No ... its called "stick stirrin'" and seems to be one of the most favorite moves of those planes that have fast roll rates. Combine that with the "dolphin" move and you are witness to one of the most unbelieveable human endurance spectacles on earth.

Hoers I can live with cause if I had cannons and came across 50's would likely do the same.
What Slappy says tho is true and such a waste of time and wear and tear on the joystick not to mention gamey for a flight sim.

nopoop · « **Reply #70 on:** August 06, 2004, 02:17:29 AM »

I'm different, when the guy is going for the HO on the merge I love it. It opens up so many opportunities. That's when the "fun" begins.

Chess..

..but then I trip on the dog bowl, smack my forehead on the kitchen table on the way down and land on a unseen pile of cat poop under the table..

Unless it's just one. Then "most" of time, it's cake if I can shoot his soggy butt before the gang joins in. Shooting is a sticking point...I fly around reeeel purty but the shooting thing ??

Well, I have a good time regardless.

..I have a shower for the cat poop because recently my house has been equipped with running water.

68DevilM · « **Reply #71 on:** August 06, 2004, 03:16:47 PM »

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Originally posted by FT_Animal
Ya know, you could keep that striped ball twirling on your nose if you hold your tongue juuuuust right.

baby seals take a while to learn that at first.

sorry ftanimal no into circus animals that much

j/k

no fariz is probably one of the best vulchers ive seen, one yak and 12 planes on him, he killed 7 of em while they were still on the ground with me on his six! then he killed 5-6 more and me once. im telling you the mans an animal. fariz seemed unstoppable until by sheer dumb luck he flew head on at 200, got in my sights and i pulled the trigger. split reaction!

so i guess im not any better than the next guy, if the opportunitys there go for your guns. i just never head straight into a fight with the intentions to hoe, ive seen players who seem to always hoe you on the first pass. sometimes i get lucky and rarley it seems to catch someone in my sights that close comeing head on. so what would most of you posters do, take the shot or let him pass?

p.s. ~~FARIZ you have to show me that trick with the yak sometimes:D~~

68DevilM · « **Reply #72 on:** August 06, 2004, 06:48:22 PM »

see oppurtunity!!!:rolleyes:

tyred to vulch spit on runway with all the ack up, angle i was at was bad for a hoe and i knew it and went in anyways, and i think i exploded:(

bad call!