Author Topic: More Gun control??? (Read 5617 times)

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:08:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Jasta
Blaming a gun on a murder is like blaming a misspelled word on a pencil.

tell that to family members of people who have had guns misfire and kill brother's etc.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #46 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:11:31 AM »

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Originally posted by B17Skull12
tell that to family members of people who have had guns misfire and kill brother's etc.

You still need a bullet in the gun. You still need a condition were that weapon happens to be pointed at somone OR you have to have a condition were somone is not properly trained on firearm safety.

People who dont know how to drive kill people every day on the highway and its never the cars fault.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:16:05 AM »

Nevar? how bout when the brake fails?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #48 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:18:12 AM »

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Originally posted by B17Skull12
Nevar? how bout when the brake fails?

do guns have brakes?

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:21:11 AM »

no, but they usually aren't suposed to kill while fiddling with them trying to un jam.

i am not in particular to fond of guns. as you can see. a friendly nearly killed him self because he and another kid where playing around and it accidentally misfired and almost killed him. playing in the parents room it fell from above, misfired, hit him in the head.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #50 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:29:26 AM »

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Originally posted by B17Skull12
fiddling with them trying to un jam.

because he and another kid where playing around

playing in the parents room

Do you see what your are typing here?

Did you not actually read what you in fact typed?

1. You dont "fiddle" with weapons

If you or somone is killed while you "fiddle" it is not the guns fault it is the person's

2. You do not leave guns around or easily accessable to children

If the gun is shot by somone who does not know how to use it than the person who made it available is responsible....not the guns.

If I left my percoset out with the top off and my two year old thought they were candy and ate the whole bottle is the percoset to blame....it did its job....

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:33:57 AM »

doh my bad im getting tired and dont read that well when i am. Discipline, i guess could also be to blame. (runs for the hills)

or could also blame you, sometimes it isn't all your fault though. could be something as stupid as wind blows a blind which knows over the bottle and kid eats.

btw sorry for lose.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #52 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:38:29 AM »

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Originally posted by B17Skull12
doh my bad im getting tired and dont read that well when i am. Discipline, i guess could also be to blame. (runs for the hills)

or could also blame you, sometimes it isn't all your fault though. could be something as stupid as wind blows a blind which knows over the bottle and kid eats.

btw sorry for lose.

NO NO NO NO the percoset thing that was just an example I dont mean to be insensative but a parent leaves a weapon, weather it be a knife or a gun, easily accessable to a child or a teenager is asking for trouble.

The gun/knife does exactly what it's designed to do......

again guns dont kill people the people that use them or improperly use them do.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:40:54 AM »

guns don't kill. that is what they were designed to do.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #54 on:** August 09, 2004, 01:50:39 AM »

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Originally posted by B17Skull12
guns don't kill. that is what they were designed to do.

Or shoot targets....or shoot clay pidgeons....

You allways have to have a PERSON pulling the trigger or "fiddleing" with it or leaving it to be "played" with by a child unatended

beet1e · « **Reply #55 on:** August 09, 2004, 03:11:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Sure if i'm on a rifle range this is not a problem but if I'm taking incoming fire and have to dive for cover or trudge through the mud the weapon gets dirty and becomes unreliable.

Besides cleaning and quality of ammo it is a fairly accurate weapon. With the proper training a marksman can hit a point target at 550 meters and an area target at 800 meters under Ideal weather conditions.

Hey Demaw-

I'll be sure to remember all this for next time I visit an American shopping mall.

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Blaming a gun on a murder is like blaming a misspelled word on a pencil.

That misspelling would not have occurred if said illiterate subject had not had access to a pencil or other sharp writing implement.

TPIguy · « **Reply #56 on:** August 09, 2004, 05:53:42 AM »

Yet another reason to own guns (and know how to use them properly.)

This happened less than 10 miles from me, and abou 1 mile from my brother.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/03NewsHEAD01A080904.htm

Note that the vitcims were killed with baseball bats.

And I agree with what Gunslinger is saying. The only time people are "accidently" shot is when someone is not practicing safe firearms handling. Guns don't load or go off by themselves they need someone to do that for them. All gun accidents could be prevented with proper education and keeping them out of the hands of children.

In short, if you have a gun, know how to use it. Know all the safety rules and follow them. If you have kids, keep the guns locked up.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #57 on:** August 09, 2004, 08:07:02 AM »

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Originally posted by TPIguy

And I agree with what Gunslinger is saying. The only time people are "accidently" shot is when someone is not practicing safe firearms handling. Guns don't load or go off by themselves they need someone to do that for them. All gun accidents could be prevented with proper education and keeping them out of the hands of children.

YOu know people demonize the NRA for defending our 2nd amendment rights (who are they to defend rights of citizens;) )but what is never said is they do more for weapons safety than any other organization in the US. what evil monsters

lazs2 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 09, 2004, 08:40:06 AM »

agreed... when I was in school the NRA taught marksmanship classes and we all brought our 22's to high school. We were told not to load them (we allready knew better most of us) and the instructor would check our rifles for safe functioning. They bussed us to the range and we shot at paper and then came back to school.

I have been told that people are much better now... more civilized and that we don't need guns anymore... that if we got rid of guns then there would be no more bad guys and no more murders.

We had guns in school and no one shot anyone..

We had loaded guns in our closets and gun racks in allmost every home and kids were taught to have respect for guns. Now... kids are taught guns are evil and need to be hidden away. kids search em out now and play with em. It is forbidden so facinating and... they have no gun safety classes in school because it is evil to mention guns. The NRA is demonized so it's excellent and free gun safety classes are banned.

This is the world we live in and the types of laws and morality of the people who run it. So yeah....

it don't hurt to be prepared for anything.

lazs

Curval · « **Reply #59 on:** August 09, 2004, 08:51:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Or shoot targets....or shoot clay pidgeons....

Which is called "practicing to kill people".