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Offline Lizking

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« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2004, 11:32:13 PM »
Went to HS in Gulfport, St. Johns, my grandparents are still there.  Did you ever go to the Wolf river?

http://www.lizking.com/mardigras87.htm  

We usually left town for it, but we still go about every 5 years.

Here is a panorama of ship island.  When I was a kid, the water pretty much surrounded the fort.  I am glad they are finally trying to save it.

http://www.lizking.com/sipan.html
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2004, 11:39:39 PM »
Used to water ski of Wolf River ( I think that was it).
I got a littering ticket off of Ship Island once. They said I threw a beer can in the water, but  I was drinking whiskey! Used to joke about getting a littering ticket in the Gulf of Mexico. Actually, I think Wildlife and fisheries was mad because we anchored off of Ship Island with the stereo blasting :) I paid the $60 but I swear - IT WAS NOT MY BEER CAN

BTW, I dunno if you're still in Nawlins, but arround mardi gras they have some cams set up in the french quarter - go to nola.com to find them. If you're out of town, itll show you what yur missing :D

Sorry for the hijack - people - its only politics anyway :D
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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2004, 11:48:21 PM »
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Sorry for the hijack - people - its only politics anyway :D


It's ok I dont think you have a point to make anyways :D

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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2004, 11:52:25 PM »
Well I have a few but they are not for sheep - Rep or Dem :)
November is a long ways off - I think I'll get them all in :D

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« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2004, 11:52:42 PM »
Talking about New Orleans is more fun than politics, anyway.  I am in Austin, but most of my friends still live there, and I go pretty often.

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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2004, 12:02:55 AM »
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>>1.) Since when does ANG service = dodging?


I stated Bush dodged Viet Nam by joining the ANG. Do you dispute that?


Um... yes.  Ill say it again; since when is ANG service "dodging" anything?

Are there not Guardsmen serving in Iraq right now?  I bet they didnt join up to "dodge" Afghanistan.

Its just flawed logic; "I dont wanna go to Vietnam so... Im gonna go be a fighter pilot."  Eh...?

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2004, 12:11:51 AM »
>>Um... yes. Ill say it again; since when is ANG service "dodging" anything?

Are there not Guardsmen serving in Iraq right now? I bet they didnt join up to "dodge" Afghanistan.

Its just flawed logic; "I dont wanna go to Vietnam so... Im gonna go be a fighter pilot." Eh...?<<

Its not flawed logic. Iraq is different than Viet Nam.
About 6000 National Guard troops served in Viet Nam. Want the numbers for the rest of the military? If you were in the National Guard, there was little chance you were going to Viet Nam.
Probably a better chance of going to Kent State :)

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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2004, 12:34:46 AM »
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Just to clear one thing up. Especially at that time, you applied to the Guard unit to be hired. IF they hired you and sent you to UPT, you pretty much knew what your "end assignment" would be UNLESS the unit changed aircraft between the time you hired in and you graduated from pilot training.

In Bush's case, he applied to an F-102 unit; he knew he'd get F-102's IF he graduated from UPT and successfully completed the F-102 RTU program.


True.  Of course the unit he applied to was flying F-102's in Vietnam at the time.  But ****ing morons will still **** all over the guard and call Bush a draft dodger.
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2004, 12:40:27 AM »
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>>Um... yes. Ill say it again; since when is ANG service "dodging" anything?

Are there not Guardsmen serving in Iraq right now? I bet they didnt join up to "dodge" Afghanistan.

Its just flawed logic; "I dont wanna go to Vietnam so... Im gonna go be a fighter pilot." Eh...?<<

Its not flawed logic. Iraq is different than Viet Nam.
About 6000 National Guard troops served in Viet Nam. Want the numbers for the rest of the military? If you were in the National Guard, there was little chance you were going to Viet Nam.
Probably a better chance of going to Kent State :)


Ok so we know how you feel about bush and the guard.....but the thread topic was about Kerry, nam, and what some people in his division thaught of him.  Care to comment on that?

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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2004, 01:00:38 AM »
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If this idiotic strategy keeps up, 3 years from now a ghost writer will be stating in "George W's memoirs" how attacking Kerry's military record was a blunder that cost the election.

What about Kerry?  He started all this back in April.

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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2004, 01:06:17 AM »
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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2004, 01:09:49 AM »
>>Ok so we know how you feel about bush and the guard.....but the thread topic was about Kerry, nam, and what some people in his division thaught of him. Care to comment on that?<<

Well really you don't. I simply stated people were not joining the National Guard during the Viet Nam war because they had a burning desire to kill VCI. They were joining the National Guard and merchant marines to avoid Viet Nam. Stupid - hell no! Anyone who *wanted* to go to Nam had very deep convictions about serving their country or were friggin nuts.

I think Kerry has deep convictions about serving his country. It would take the king of all dittoheads to try and distort that fact. There are many different roads, easier roads, he could've taken to further his carreer. But you *know* this. His whole life was a plot to destroy capitalism? Or perhaps he's not a self promoting coward who just happens to have ja different idea for working toward a common goal. You also know the straglers the GOP could find to denounce him, are just playing politics, and working on their own agenda. Or perhaps they just don't value the fact someone took the very real risk of dying to serve their country the best they could. Not all veterans are smart or even civilized.
Anyone putting the carreers of those folks in the commercial under a microscope?

Because someone does well in wartime, doesn't make them a leader or even a good person. Just look at Grant or in a horendous case - Timothy McVeigh. But to disect and minimize someones duty to their country for the sake of politics is disgusting.

In summation - I think Kerry honestly served his country bravely, and knew very well he could die in Viet Nam. Does that fact alone make him a leader? - no. But that and the rest of his life in community service displays conviction. If he just wanted an easy job or power, I think he could have found an easier road. An you know what? You know this too.

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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2004, 01:13:49 AM »
ditto GreenCloud :aok

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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2004, 01:32:44 AM »
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Its not flawed logic. Iraq is different than Viet Nam.
About 6000 National Guard troops served in Viet Nam. Want the numbers for the rest of the military? If you were in the National Guard, there was little chance you were going to Viet Nam.
Probably a better chance of going to Kent State :)


See - thats the thing though.  During Vietnam there were plenty of ways to dodge the draft... signing up to fly fighters would be my first choice if that was my goal.

Sooooo... either Im going to have to admit that Bush really is the dumbest man on the planet - signing up with the military to avoid... military service - or he wasnt trying to dodge anything.

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« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2004, 06:27:41 AM »
being a life long politician, you'd thunk herman would have used his track record there to propel himself for the highest political seat in the nation

hmm, wonder why he isn't doing that?? - LOL

instead at first the tard & his group states they willl not make his military record an issue in the election, even as he runs around saluting everyone from the doorman to his audiences, then he proceeds to shove his half baked record down our throats stating it is the PRIMARY reason we should vote his lying arse into the office of the POTUS

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