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Martlet · « **Reply #180 on:** August 07, 2004, 08:47:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
By the way...

Their book is not titled "Why we can't stand Kerry's Testimony" and does not talk about why that testomony was wrong.

They attack something else. His service. Not related. Total BS.

Why's it BS? They were there. O'Dell saw what Kerry got his medal for. He said it was undeserved. Another put a bandaid on the wound he got a purple heart for.

He was wounded 3 times in four months, didn't miss any time for any of the wounds, then shipped out of NAM as soon as he could.

How many other swift boat vets did that?

Nash · « **Reply #181 on:** August 07, 2004, 08:54:00 PM »

I don't know how many. Do you? Is it unusual? I don't know that. Do you? Are the things you're basing your conclusion on true? I don't know, do you?

O'Dell says he didn't deserve The Silver Star. Nice for him. I don't know what qualifications O'Dell has for judging the merits of the awarding of the Silver Star. Is he the only one that has a problem with awarding Kerry the Silver Star? If so, why? Also, why is his opinion given greater weight by you than those other than O'Dell that say he deserved it?

Martlet · « **Reply #182 on:** August 07, 2004, 08:55:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
I don't know how many. Do you? Is it unusual? I don't know that. Do you? Are the things you're basing your conclusion on true? I don't know, do you?

O'Dell says he didn't deserve The Silver Star. Nice for him. I don't know what qualifications O'Dell has for judging the merits of the awarding of the Silver Star. Is he the only one that has a problem with awarding Kerry the Silver Star? If so, why? Also, why is his opinion given greater weight by you than those other than O'Dell that says he deserved it?

Bronze Star.

Because every single one of Kerry's COs say he isn't fit to be CIC.

Every
Single
One.

Nash · « **Reply #183 on:** August 07, 2004, 08:59:42 PM »

Every... Single.... One...

Well Martlet, you've been saying that... Can you link me?

Lets say for the sake of argument that it's true.

Isn't it odd to you that these CO's gave Kerry good Fitreps (see above), yet 35 years later not only are they seemingly contradicting themselves wrt to Kerry's fitness, but seem to think they are qualified to judge someones fitness wrt to the qualifications of being a President, not to mention 35 years and no contact later?

Martlet · « **Reply #184 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:03:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Every... Single.... One...

Well Martlet, you've been saying that... Can you link me?

Lets say for the sake of argument that it's true.

Isn't it odd to you that these CO's gave Kerry good Fitreps (see above), yet 35 years later not only are they seemingly contradicting themselves wrt to Kerry's fitness, but seem to think they are qualified to judge someones fitness wrt to the qualifications of being a President, not to mention 35 years and no contact later?

Go to swiftvets.com . It not only shows you the letter signed by every single one of kerry's COs, but it also teaches you how to read fitreps.

Every Single One of the people assigned to observe and evaluate Kerry say he isn't fit to serve as CIC.

Mini D · « **Reply #185 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:05:06 PM »

kerry testified in front of congress as an expert witness in regards to vietnam war atrocities. Do you agree with this nash? Don't ignore it.. answer it.

As for "is this normal.. I don't know?". No... it wasn't. I seriously doubt you could find more than a handfull of people that left vietnam after 3 purple hearts with only a scar to show for it. I am finding you to be either incredibly naive or deliberately ignorant. If you don't have an understanding as to how to use buracracy to get something done, you really shouldn't be arguing on the subject. Really. Because this whole issue is based solely on it.

DipStick · « **Reply #186 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:10:57 PM »

Say what you want but Kerry is just too damn ugly to be president.

Nash · « **Reply #187 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:12:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
kerry testified in front of congress as an expert witness in regards to vietnam war atrocities. Do you agree with this nash? Don't ignore it.. answer it.

I've both read/seen his testimony a few times. I actually don't know what he was testifying about. War atrocities? The situation in 'Nam overall?... I just don't know, now that you mention it.

If you don't have an understanding as to how to use buracracy to get something done, you really shouldn't be arguing on the subject. Really. Because this whole issue is based solely on it.

To be honest, I suck at using buracracy. Why does that make me unfit to argue re The Backstreet Swifters?

But are you telling me that Kerry is good at using buracracy, and therefore is unfit to be controlling one?

Nash · « **Reply #188 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:15:43 PM »

Thanks for the link Martlet. I'd love to hear you answer the qustion I posed:

"Isn't it odd to you that these CO's gave Kerry good Fitreps (see above), yet 35 years later not only are they seemingly contradicting themselves wrt to Kerry's fitness, but seem to think they are qualified to judge someones fitness wrt to the qualifications of being a President, not to mention 35 years and no contact later?"

TweetyBird · « **Reply #189 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:29:14 PM »

>>I seriously doubt you could find more than a handfull of people that left vietnam after 3 purple hearts with only a scar to show for it.<<

Yea - Kerry is incredibly shrewd. He managed to dodge Viet Nam by actually pulling two tours there, getting in shooting range of VC's, and getting medals. Yes lets stuff ourselves on the sheep food being served up with corporate money from Texas.

Your choice. Walk the left sheep trail or the right sheep trail. If you ain't fluffy, you might start following the corporate money trail in both candidate's campaign, and forget about this ridiculous noodle measuring BS. Just how frigging dumb has the average American become? Do you think this matters at all? Its not Watergate - its spin and defy you to factually present it as anything else. He got medals! MOVE ON.

Horn · « **Reply #190 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:44:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
kerry testified in front of congress as an expert witness in regards to vietnam war atrocities. Do you agree with this nash? Don't ignore it.. answer it.

http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/Kerry_1971_Testimony.pdf

I don't agree with it. Nowhere does it say he is an "expert" witness.

The testimony in question starts on page four of the pdf file. The atrocities cited are one paragraph out of 30 pages of testimony and he was telling about how it was described to him BY OTHERS in the Winter Soldier investigation. He didn't accuse and only attributed (he was a moderator in the investigation).

Twist it as you will.

Lizking · « **Reply #191 on:** August 07, 2004, 09:45:51 PM »