Extreme Prejudice

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
The Reason I didn't fly once today.

I wont switch sides anymore due to the "we have a spy bullchit".

If you fuggin knits AND bish want to get your tails handed to you every night with 2:1 odds fine by me. Keep saying what your saying, doing what your doing and things will continue to be as they are.

I dont give a rats arse about your wars. I dont like lopsided fights unless they are not in my favor. (Theres more fun for me flying with odds against you) I only ever switched to help even up the numbers. NOT to spy on your pathedic little "War", "Missions" ect.

That is a shame Morph ... sorry to hear that.

Morpheus, XJ, or any AoM have absolutly nothing to gain, "spywise", when they switch.

They are here for the fight, and boy can they fight !!! Any team that these guys switch to, should welcome them with open arms.

When the 13th just did the rotate thing, not once were we accused of being "spys" and were greeted with respect and a feeling of belonging by both the Rooks and Bish ... especially by the Rooks.

How can we (Knights) try to crawl out of this numbers hole when we reject and treat those who come to help, with that type of welcome.

[mars01]

Completely Right Slap, not to mention, what idiot is going to claim a guy is a spy when he is using the same login he flys with in his original country.

Little boy from the Sixth Sense...

"I see stupid people, (whimper), Their all around me.  (Scared)"

LOL.

[DREDIOCK]

As much as I detest the horde.
I have to give cradit to rooks for one thing.
Over the last several days I've been primarily fighting rooks to see if I can prove Zazens statistical comments right or wrong. Or find out the reasons for them.

So far I STILL do not see them as better pilots. Certainly no better or worse then bish
BUT

One thing the rooks seem to do more then either knits or bish is fly together. and they rarely get caught below 10K (you guys sure do like your alt huh LOL)
They RARELY are caught alone even when outnumbered arena wise.
They always fly in groups

In the last 3 days and dozens of flights  I've managed to get into only 5 fights where I wasnt outnumbered by at LEAST 3-1 when flying by myself. Usually the odds were much worse.
And only 3 of those was a 1v1 for the entire fight.

Gotta hand it to em though. They do fly together and they dont just fly by when they see a countrymen in a fight.
If its a 1 v1 they will join in, a 2v1 they will join in
a 3,4,5V1 they will STILL join in.

[DipStick]

No Morpheus really is a spy!

[DipStick]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
One thing the rooks seem to do more then either knits or bish is fly together.

They RARELY are caught alone even when outnumbered arena wise.

They always fly in groups

In the last 3 days and dozens of flights  I've managed to get into only 5 fights where I wasnt outnumbered by at LEAST 3-1 when flying by myself. Usually the odds were much worse.

And only 3 of those was a 1v1 for the entire fight.

Gotta hand it to em though. They do fly together and they dont just fly by when they see a countrymen in a fight.

If its a 1 v1 they will join in, a 2v1 they will join in a 3,4,5V1 they will STILL join in.

There's safety in numbers. The HORDE rulz!

PS... I actually agree with Bug and MugZ! That's a first on both counts.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
As much as I detest the horde.
I have to give cradit to rooks for one thing.
Over the last several days I've been primarily fighting rooks to see if I can prove Zazens statistical comments right or wrong. Or find out the reasons for them.

So far I STILL do not see them as better pilots. Certainly no better or worse then bish
BUT

One thing the rooks seem to do more then either knits or bish is fly together. and they rarely get caught below 10K (you guys sure do like your alt huh LOL)
They RARELY are caught alone even when outnumbered arena wise.
They always fly in groups

In the last 3 days and dozens of flights  I've managed to get into only 5 fights where I wasnt outnumbered by at LEAST 3-1 when flying by myself. Usually the odds were much worse.
And only 3 of those was a 1v1 for the entire fight.

Gotta hand it to em though. They do fly together and they dont just fly by when they see a countrymen in a fight.
If its a 1 v1 they will join in, a 2v1 they will join in
a 3,4,5V1 they will STILL join in.

This is something that I noted in a post, in another thread.

When we flew with the Rooks, I would say that the vast majority of the Rooks will, at all costs, cover a fellow countryman.

This was my reasoning for why the Rooks always have the better K/D ratio. Not because they are more skilled, because they have comraderie ... more than any other team.

They will not let one of their pilots flounder alone, which in most cases gets the guy out of trouble and then he is able to also land his kills.

[Edbert]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
One thing the rooks seem to do more then either knits or bish is fly together. and they rarely get caught below 10K (you guys sure do like your alt huh LOL)
They RARELY are caught alone even when outnumbered arena wise.
They always fly in groups

Just a guess on my part but based on my own style of flying...

When I am in enemy airspace that is generally true; fly a fast plane, come in highish, and keep the hard-deck at about 7K for emergencies (don't get low/slow for a single kill because there's plenty of reinforcement otw to save the guy you are after).

When I am on defense I generally fly an agile plane and often fail to get above 6K.

Maybe thats what you are seeing. Rooks have had higher numbers as a whole for the last few tours, so they tend to be on the offensive more than defensive lately. Just a thought that would explain what you are seeing.

[DipStick]

Originally posted by SlapShot
This is something that I noted in a post, in another thread.

When we flew with the Rooks, I would say that the vast majority of the Rooks will, at all costs, cover a fellow countryman.

This was my reasoning for why the Rooks always have the better K/D ratio. Not because they are more skilled, because they have comraderie ... more than any other team.

They will not let one of their pilots flounder alone, which in most cases gets the guy out of trouble and then he is able to also land his kills.

Well like we were saying in another post Slap, if I'm engaged with 1 guy I don't want 'help' unless I ask for it. Rooks can only survive in a position of 2:1 or better. I don't know it doesn't really matter.

I just know when I log on and dar is down and rooks outnumber us 2:1 I usually log because if you can find rooks it will be 5-10 of them, 5-10k above you. Just gets a "bit" old after a few months.

Although I will say my skills (SA, defense) have improved fighting a constant horde so it's not all bad.

[TheDudeDVant]

yep, I saw Morph's Spy ID card..  No doubt, he is 100% spy!!!!! How'd I know it belonged to him you might ask?? Cause the name on it said: Bad Mother ****ing Muppet...

[Edbert]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Gotta hand it to em though. They do fly together and they dont just fly by when they see a countrymen in a fight.
If its a 1 v1 they will join in, a 2v1 they will join in
a 3,4,5V1 they will STILL join in.

That is also true and regrettable. If you have 5 guys all dive to the deck to gang one enemy who is already fighting a 2v1 you have just screwed up. I see this alot and I saw it with other countries too. Perhaps being on the up side of a 30v10 makes one more desperate to score a kill and we end up fighting with each other for scaps:(

This is not universal though. Just last Saturday morning I was climbing out in a Yak and saw a 2v2 taking place low at my 3:00. Two other rooks were fighting a pair of 190s who seemed to be wingmen. I called out and asked if they were okay or if they needed help. Both of them said almost simulatneously "HELP". So I peeled off and dove in. One of the rooks blew up almost instantly but had managed to get the 190 to almost stall in the verticle, I was able to get a fuel leak on the guy who popped him but closure rate was too high to finish him off and I broke high. I looked back to see the other rook get wasted too. Now I was in a great 2v1 with a pair of 190s. Don't know who you guys were but it was a blast. The uninjured 190 was a Dora and he dragged me a long way, can't figure out why you guys ran to our base though, maybe he was lost. Both died to the ack ( I think it was manned)  and all I got was an assist

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by DipStick
Well like we were saying in another post Slap, if I'm engaged with 1 guy I don't want 'help' unless I ask for it. Rooks can only survive in a position of 2:1 or better. I don't know it doesn't really matter.

I just know when I log on and dar is down and rooks outnumber us 2:1 I usually log because if you can find rooks it will be 5-10 of them, 5-10k above you. Just gets a "bit" old after a few months.

Although I will say my skills (SA, defense) have improved fighting a constant horde so it's not all bad.

No no no ... My point is that when YOU are in trouble ... not when YOU have the advantage. When I was in trouble, many times, WITHOUT asking, I would hear ... "Hang on Slappy, I'm in".

Now that you mention it, I don't remember too many cases of kill stealing by Rooks.

Yes .. flying for the Knights for the last 3 years has definately tweaked the SA up a notch ot 2 ... for sure.

[Lazer]

I used to switch just to hear the squeals of the low lifes that actually cared.

[dedalos]

Used to be rook when their numbers were low.  Now I am knight.  I love it.  I can up any field any time and find a fight.

[phookat]

Originally posted by AKcurly
The rooks did nothing to turn it around.  They couldn't --- a typical evening would be 180 Knights, 140 Bishops and 80 Rooks.  It got turned around because a number of Knight and Bishop squads thought the game would be more fun if the numbers were more evenly balanced.

Well said.

[Furious]

...also, HT installed the perk multiplier to help with the numbers near the end of the rooks turn in the bucket.



I have flown with bish and knits lately.  Noone accused me of spying.  I got plenty of C6's.  I had fun.