ENY disablements

[gofaster]

Originally posted by AKcurly
If the large squads in Rookland had helped balance the arena, then HTC wouldn't have been forced into  extreme measures.  Pity.

curly

If I recall, the same situation existed in Bishopland when Rooks were the whipping boys.  I seem to recall an AK came on this message board and suggested some squads switch to Rooks to balance things out.  What country have you been flying for since 2001?

[ghostdancer]

Haven't read through the whole line of posts yet. But I am Rook and my squad is a Rook. The ENY disablements didn't really affect us too much during last night.

Then again we normally conduct JABO operations in P38s, P47s, 110s and Mossies. Also some of the midwar planes as our fighters .. F4Us and F6Fs.

So it did encourage flying different type of planes but new patch livable.

[Kev367th]

Hyrax and Cobra,
I thought you had to be with a country for a certain time before you collected perks for a reset?

[gofaster]

Originally posted by 4510
Curly,

  First where are the squads that changed and rescued the Rooks?  If they were the squads of character you mention, why don't they just move back?  Leopards changed their spots?

Right here!  We jumped from Knights to balance play, even before the perk value variable was implemented.  We're thinking of jumping back to Knights since they seem to be on the ropes so much.

[4510]

Originally posted by gofaster
Right here!  We jumped from Knights to balance play, even before the perk value variable was implemented.  We're thinking of jumping back to Knights since they seem to be on the ropes so much.

GoFaster...



Everyone keeps pointing to how things cross-leveled naturally three years ago...and suddenly how everyone is so selfish that it won't work now.  I am of the opinion that if it worked before it will eventually work again. The people who made it work before will make it work again.

Thanks for being one of those who will...

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by gofaster
Bring the Malcolm hood P-51B to Aces High!

Bring the Ki-44 to Aces High!

Bring the Ki-100 to Aces High!

Bring the D.502 to Aces High!

Actually, in a way ... yeah.

If there was a rolling plane set then the proliferation of quasi-uber planes wouldn't be an issue. Not sure it'd affect the odds much but it could help in ways (like, vultching ain't as easy when you got 8 .303's instead of 4 20mm's).

Don't forget the P-39, Yak-3, Ki-43, Hs-129, and Beaufighter in your list either.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by 4510
GoFaster...



Everyone keeps pointing to how things cross-leveled naturally three years ago...and suddenly how everyone is so selfish that it won't work now.  I am of the opinion that if it worked before it will eventually work again. The people who made it work before will make it work again.

Thanks for being one of those who will...

I wonder if this happened to any other squads:

The Shills changed to Knights in the Beta, with the intention of staying Knights in AH2. But when we imported our settings from AH1 during the changeover, it put us back in Rooks (where the AH1 squad remained). There was a confused week where we were spread out, then we just sort of dropped it (summer being here and participation in the summer lull).

-Sik

[DipStick]

Oh no, waaaaaa, I'm crying so hard, waaaaaaa, I'm blubbering, waaaaaa, waaaaaa.

[killnu]

First where are the squads that changed and rescued the Rooks? If they were the squads of character you mention, why don't they just move back? Leopards changed their spots?

my squad did move back, before this new patch, so some of us did.  what we will see is all the squads/players that jumped ship to fly with country with most numbers will end up going back to fly with their respective countries they left to fly the their choice of planes and the numbers will eventually even out.  this will end up proving that it wasnt the "superior teamwork" crap why people went rooks, well, not all people.   and if it was the teamwork, i dont see why this is an issue, you still have the ability to fly as a team.  this patch was just introduced yesterday for gawd sake.  give it a little time.  

~S~

[Karnak]

Originally posted by 4510
Well Karnak.. work with me here let's turn your argument around.  He has no problem with status quo.  You do.  Why don't YOU change countries to one not so badly outnumbered?  Then you have your flying experience, your problem is solved, and you didn't solve it by changing someone else's experience.

Of course I'm sure that's not what YOU want to do.... so that makes HIM wrong.

So I can become part of the problem and compete with 10 other players for each enemy?  For some reason that doesn't sound very fun.

[Hyrax81st]

Originally posted by Murdr
Oh great mister data and numbers guy who doesnt even know that reset perks are not awarded to players who are not in country for 12 hours.

How bizarre that I never stated they were and you think I did.

I can read "and wait for your plane of choice to be enabled" just fine.  It must be your reading comprehention since I did not  state that the all remaining enabled planes were suitable for attack sorties.

It gets so tiresome to have to read back to posters what they wrote... You suggested you would feel like a dweeb complaining about losing a preferred plane with  80%-90% of the plane set still available. Your comments didn't address the posters concern that it was related to ATTACK planes...i.e. JABO. It is NOT the total planeset the thread comments are about. It's the JABO capable planes.

I bet you still don't understand even after this lengthy explanation.

[Hyrax81st]

Originally posted by AKcurly
...They squealed like little piggies until some Bishop and Knight squads changed countries to relieve the problem.

The current large squads in Rookland lack the character (or whatever) to help manage the arena so that all countries can enjoy Aces High.

If the large squads in Rookland had helped balance the arena, then HTC wouldn't have been forced into  extreme measures.  Pity.

curly

It's funny... when our squad came over from AW - we were on Bish first... didn't like the company - moved to Rook...liked the company.

No other reason than that.

[Hyrax81st]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Hyrax and Cobra,
I thought you had to be with a country for a certain time before you collected perks for a reset?

You do... timing is everything, of course, but Rooks have seen significant influxes of other country members (in the past) centered around known RJO's, squad ops and even country placement on a particular map. It's just savvy "gaming-the-game" by experienced free-lancers.

I shouldn't even call these players "other country members". They are free-lancers who switch when it suits their purposes and have no particular country allegiance.

[DoKGonZo]

Look, if squadrons aren't moving to more target-rich pastures, or if a bunch of horde-loving freelancers is able to mess up the balance, it's probably better to figure out why and fix that. This new balancer hurts too many people who aren't causing the problem in the first place.

In amongst the childish sniping in these topics I've seen a lot of good ideas about alternate approaches to fix the problem. The use of Perks is one of these. But I'd flip the logic ... meaning I'd accelerate the perk discount  for outnumbered countries rather than charge perks for "normal" planes. So if you're outnumbered all the time, you may be able to actually fly Tempests and C-Hogs and Spit XIV's to your hearts delight even if you don't have 1000's of perks. And that gives people a reason to move, instead of a punishment for not moving.

[Hyrax81st]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
But I'd flip the logic ... meaning I'd accelerate the perk discount  for outnumbered countries rather than charge perks for "normal" planes. So if you're outnumbered all the time, you may be able to actually fly Tempests and C-Hogs and Spit XIV's to your hearts delight even if you don't have 1000's of perks. And that gives people a reason to move, instead of a punishment for not moving.

Another great idea using the already established, common and relatively well known PERK system !

Thanks, DoKGonZo.