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« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2004, 09:03:14 AM »
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I was asking for clarification.


Why?
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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2004, 09:11:20 AM »
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Give every NZer 6 guns and the violent crime stats would go through the roof.You would just be arming the nutters and scumbags and we have got our share of them.With the firearm rules that are in place here they havn't got access to the guns that they would have in the US.
That's the point I've been trying to make, Excel1 - the same thing applies to Britain. If your comments are addressed to Lazs, be prepared to repeat it 500 times - and he still won't get it. :rolleyes:



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« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2004, 09:11:59 AM »
Why?  A person says that they have a very large population of minorities and have no problem and I ask what the number is and ...

you ask me why?   If I were to say that we have less children under 6 killed accidentaly by firearms than by drowning in 5 gallon buckets.... you might ask me for numbers eh?

if you say that you believe michell moore that whites are hunting down blacks and killing em with guns then I might ask what numbers of whites are killing blacks with guns and what number of whites are being ki8lled by blacks?   get it?

I don't know what if there is a large population or not in his country... I don't know what he considers "large"  give me the numbers and I can get a better handle on it.

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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2004, 09:16:02 AM »
beetle... ohn but I do get it... euros don't trust themselves or their fellow man... it is a class thing left over from centuries ago... that is why the queen still shows up for parades and such.

No... I get it... I just don't live in fear of my fellow citizens like you euros do... I do take a cautious approch towards the sociopaths and drug addicts but no more so than I "fear" driving on the freeway.  

If I never "need" a gun.... fine.   great... in the meantime....  I will enjoy em.

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« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2004, 09:21:47 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
beetle... ohn but I do get it... euros don't trust themselves or their fellow man... it is a class thing left over from centuries ago... that is why the queen still shows up for parades and such.

No... I get it... I just don't live in fear of my fellow citizens like you euros do... I do take a cautious approch towards the sociopaths and drug addicts but no more so than I "fear" driving on the freeway.  

If I never "need" a gun.... fine.   great... in the meantime....  I will enjoy em.

lazs
Lazs- I was agreeing with the point made by Excel, who is in NZ. NZ is not part of Europe, in case you didn't know. In fact it's more distant from Britain than any other country.

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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2004, 09:34:10 AM »
The lower crime rates in New Zealand compared the US, argument , I think is spurious. NZ is an island state with 3.8m people a long way from anywhere.  A far more apt comparsion would be to look a state in the union with a similar size and population, semi rural with a few cities and people of mostly of European descent. I dunno Kansas or North Dakota or somewhere like that.  I suspect  a crime rate similar to NZ would cause the citizens of said states to go running to the gunshop to buy more ammo because of course they already have plenty of guns.  Many states like that in the US have tiny crime rates neither caused by guns or lack thereof.

If you just wanted to cause an argument of course then go ahead. :lol

This from Demaw I found funny.

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2 congressmen from colorado , 1 from each party, has said from there info they believe 1000 terrorists have come thru mexico and canada and are in colorado now.

1 senator and the district attor. of texas said from there info they believe 20000 terrorist have crossed the border and are in the border states this year.


I find it a little difficult to believe that 20000 jihadists swanning about the lone star state would go unnoticed, even in  a state as big as Texas.  That all sounds a bit like the old conspiracy theory that the UN are massing a huge army in Mexico ready to invade.  :rofl

 What some politicans will do to get votes.!

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and another thing, Lazs
« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2004, 09:48:05 AM »
You keep saying things like "really funny here... I don't understand your little island". Of course you don't. NZ actually consists of two main islands (North & South) plus Stuart Island, making a total land area which is bigger than America's 8th largest state which, as you know, is Colorado. In fact NZ is two thirds the size of California.

Just think, if the annual wrangling over the water supply that takes place in CA every summer were to lead to CA breaking up into two separate states (as has been suggested in the past), then by his own definition Lazs could find himself living in a tiny little state called Shasta! :lol

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« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2004, 09:48:51 AM »
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« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2004, 09:52:38 AM »
cpxxx
 LOL the UN DOES have an Army in Mexico and it is already invading!  It is called the "mexican population"!

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Those numbers seem a tad far fetched to me as well, but I am sure the terrorists have used the lack of border control to come into this country. Hell if I were them I would.:D

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« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2004, 09:54:27 AM »
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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2004, 10:04:16 AM »
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« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2004, 10:08:24 AM »
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Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

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« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2004, 10:10:48 AM »
Ok... so nz is allmost as big as colorado... which I can drive through in an easy tank of gas.    Split California in half... OK... makes no diff to me.   Would give the Republicans 28 electorial votes tho and take the same amount from the democrat socialists.

curval... I probly am a racist by your defenition... I think that all races should be treated equally under the law.

I also believe that no data should be destroyed or ignored simply because it has to do with one race or another.

but... I do say that you have the right to live in fear of firearms... you should live on some tiny little island where they are banned and hope that the bad guys obey the ban and that you never need more than a 9 iron to defend you and yours and...

That you or your children never take an interest in firearms because.... you can't have em..  neeener neeener neener.

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« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2004, 10:48:36 AM »
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Ok... so nz is allmost as big as colorado...  
No, it is bigger.

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« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2004, 10:55:00 AM »
WOW!  bigger than one of our ski resorts... that is impressive!   allmost the population of one of our cities too I bet.

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