Author Topic: 30mm Mk108 (Read 2088 times)

Urchin · « **on:** August 27, 2004, 03:09:13 PM »

I've been having some trouble killing with this gun since Ah2 came out. It definately seems to me that it no longer has the hitting power it had in Ah1. Considering how difficult the weapon is to hit with to begin with, I think it really needs to be looked at.

I've got a film of me landing a 30mm on a Spits nose. It resulted in an oil leak. If anyone would like to host the film let me know, I'd like to put it up.

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2004, 03:18:10 PM »

I'd offer, but I can only do images with the service I use.

Ask DoKGonZo, he hosted Mitsu's new sound pack.

If you just want HiTech to look at it, email it to him.

Urchin · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2004, 03:21:14 PM »

Actually, I just looked at the film a few times in slo-mo (which is cool). I hit at least 2 30mm. One to the nose, which actually killed the engine, and one to the wing, that did nothing. I'm gonna try to get it hosted as soon as Morph shows up on IM.. he never puts up away messages even when he is away.

Furball · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2004, 03:41:43 PM »

i've had that in AHI urch with 40mm on PT and 37mm Osty gun.

Hit things square on nose and they just smoke.

And urch you can upload films to http://www.onpoi.net/ah

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2004, 03:50:35 PM »

At least you can hit! I took a G10 up against a p47 (was silver, so I suspect it was a -D), and we flew around each other for about 10 minutes fighting, and I could NOT hit the little sod worth crap. Even when he was stalled out high over me and I had a PERFECT shot on him I could NOT hit him with 30mm (and this all at ranges around 200-400), no matter what. It wasn't until I sprayed 100 rounds literally at him point blank that I finally knocked a wing off. (HTH arena, lots of ammo)

The 30mm definitely is... um... "odd" in not being able to hit squat anymore.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2004, 03:57:43 PM »

I dont think it's much different in being able to hit except for the new smaller hit zones on the 3D models. As for hit power I am under the impression that it may be somewhat weaker.

Urchin · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2004, 04:03:58 PM »

Ok, uploaded the film .. I cant post a link, but Jb73 did.

First hit is clearly a 30mm, after that I fired MGs too by accident, but there is at least one more 30mm hit to the right wing.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2004, 04:06:45 PM »

Fix the link plese.

JB73 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2004, 04:24:10 PM »

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/730_1093640490_30mmoilleak.ahf
there is his link

TimRas · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2004, 05:44:03 AM »

These are pics taken from the film.
Urchin fires first only 30mm cannon (this can be read from the ammo counter also). One cannon hit in the Spits' nose. Spit engine quits immediately, but the plane does not explode or disintegrate.

Urchin now fires also his MG's. Two hits to Spits right wing. These are very likely only MG hits.

Urchin's plane seems to be intact when the planes pass by, no hit sprites so far.

Urchin loses suddenly his both horizontal stabilizers. Down he goes !!!

TrueKill · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2004, 06:06:00 AM »

send the file to my email ill post it up as long as its not more then 10MB

Nilsen · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2004, 07:05:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
At least you can hit! I took a G10 up against a p47 (was silver, so I suspect it was a -D), and we flew around each other for about 10 minutes fighting, and I could NOT hit the little sod worth crap. Even when he was stalled out high over me and I had a PERFECT shot on him I could NOT hit him with 30mm (and this all at ranges around 200-400), no matter what. It wasn't until I sprayed 100 rounds literally at him point blank that I finally knocked a wing off. (HTH arena, lots of ammo)

The 30mm definitely is... um... "odd" in not being able to hit squat anymore.

maybe some of the lethality settings in that arena was altered.

i dunno, dont remember what settings are available

Urchin · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2004, 08:54:18 AM »

Thx for making the pictures Tim. I never have been any good at that. The reason I think at least one of the hits to the wing was a 30mm is that if you look at the film from inside my plane, you can see one of the tracers from the cannon go right to it. At least it appears that way to me, that tracer starts off lower than the ones coming from the MGs.

GODO · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2004, 02:19:58 PM »

Urchin, are you more lucky with the 20mm? I used both with 109G6 and G10, I need to score multiple flashes to have some damage, usualy non critical.

For those of you still believing in Peter Pan, dont come here with the V-Sync - rubber bullet mithology.

Urchin · « **Reply #14 on:** August 28, 2004, 04:14:24 PM »

I have switched to the 20mm loadout for the 109, I don't typically use the 30mm anymore. It just isnt reliable enough for me, I get better results shooting the MG and 20mm cannon rather than just the 30mm cannon.

By the way, it isn't Vsync.. I have Vsync set to always on.