Can we have night back?

[phookat]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Lemme see if Im gettin this right. Your saying that all that tempertantrum, footstomping against night was over once every 13 hours??

I fail to see any temper tantrums here...I think we have all been pretty reasonable in explaining why we don't like it and why it doesn't make sense.  Anyway, like I said, if it comes back, I will most likely head to the CT at that time.

But if there are really a lot of people who like or prefer the night, surely having a separate arena with night would be a great solution.  This solution is neither unfair nor selfish.

[la7'sRule]

I dont understand what kind of gamer would Play a simulation game.
And then Leave out 1 of the most importaint aspects Of the war they are simulating....

Night raids were more common than day sorties Yet in ah2 "a suposedly great simulation" they totaly ridequle this and makike Everything nice sunny day fighting...

This aint WW1 people These aint by planes and i aint the red barron.

get it right

[Toad]

Well, Dred, what I recall is our squad night being repeatedly and routinely interrupted by night. We played from about 8 Central to maybe 11 or so on Wed.

If it had been more random rather than cyclic, it wouldn't have been such a nuisance.

As for diapers and binkies, I see who's doing the crybaby act in this thread.

It's the "nighty-nighters".

[la7'sRule]

the word "binkie" means what exactly I cannot find it in the oxford english dictionary any where..

So which language is it if its not english and what exactly does it mean...
And how come your so familiar with it

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by la7'sRule
and theres nothing wrong with the gfx even at the lowest setting The lighting at night is more than adequate for Any 1 to fly in.

just cos you aint to good at flying dont mean you get rid of night for every 1 els.

learn to fly well enough so u have the confidence for night flying and open up a whole new horizon for you.

After all.. most bombing raids were at night time.. yet in ah2 you refuse to even enter a night time room,,

What do you people want any way??

A simulation or a shoot em up cos i tell you what..
Ive seen a load of airoplane games and this is my fave.
And its not my fave becous its arcade like

So make a choice Simulation or arcade.

Chose arcade and go find a new game
cchose simulation and take it ith all its aspect's

la7'sRule ... you are quite the troll ... from the name right down to the l33t sp34k typing.

[Saintaw]

Please don't. We've discussed this ad nauseum already.

[Kev367th]

So if night was more random, and for less time there would be less objections to having it?
Or would the objections just be changed to another reason?

[la7'sRule]

oh felly tin well na fi?
Dwim yn deuallt syt mae pobol fel y chi yn gedry dweud na iath gynta chi ydi seusnag

tyda chi ddim yn gall.

cym pwyll

[Toad]

Originally posted by Kev367th
So if night was more random, and for less time there would be less objections to having it?
Or would the objections just be changed to another reason?

Night always sucked. For the numerous reasons mentioned by numerous posters numerous times in this thread.

However, HT, for whatever reason, implemented it. Most folks just worked around it. After fooling around trying to play the game with the gameplay and aircraft available for quite some time, my "work around" was simply to log and do something much more fun or more productive.

I personally believe that night fell disproportionately during US Prime Time. That is when I personally really began to hate it with a passion.

I will always oppose night implementation as long as there are no true nightfighter aircraft and their traditional targets and as long as gameplay is such that there is no real benefit to night implementation.

Random short periods of night would be better than what we had. However, given the game and aircraft we have, random night is a far, far, FAR worse choice than no night at all.

No night is the best possible choice. Everything else would just be varying degrees of suckage.

[MOSQ]

NO.

[Kev367th]

Whats this 'true nightfighter' crap.
You have DAR, in fact due to the DAR whiners, DAR is virtually up always now.
Of course even if HT introduced a nightfighter there would be yet another reason found not to have night.
Don't say simulation, if this was a sim you wouldn't have in-cockpit DAR available as is now.
There were traditional opponents, a lot of buff guys flew at night before night was disabled. How more accurate do you want it?

Seems most people want a simulation but only within their own small what constitutes a sim boundaries.

You want a sim, fine, make dar only visible from the maproom and plan your mission from there.  Lot more 'realistic' than what we have now. But of course this is a GAME not a SIM.

[Toad]

Check my sig, bud. That's only been in there for four or five years.

This is a GAME. Anyone who doesn't understand that is only fooling himself.

Night makes for a piss-poor game.

Is that clear enough?

[Kev367th]

lol Toad think you need to make up your mind.

One reply you say night wouldn't be such a nuisance if random, next one you say random would be worse choice.

But this is a classic

I will always oppose night implementation as long as there are no true nightfighter aircraft and their traditional targets and as long as gameplay is such that there is no real benefit to night implementation.

Followed by
Night makes for a piss-poor game.

As I said even if all the stuff like nightfighters were available you would still find an excuse to oppose it.

[SlapShot]

OK ... the only real reason for flying at night was to use the darkness as concelment ... probably the earliest rendition of "stealth". With our "all world" radar and icons at 6k ... all that which makes night flying feasable is rendered moot.

In the the early stages of the war, fighter planes did not have the legs to escort bombers during daylight hours all the way to target and back, leaving them extremely vunerable and many paid the price. So, bombers were then used mainly at night to take advantage of the stealth and increase survivability.

Once radar became available, daytime fighters started to get equipped with on-board radar and large guns to try and find these elusive night time bombers and destroy them. These became what I refer to as "bomber-hunters". So, I would presume that the only planes that flew at night, with any consistency, were bombers and bomber-hunters.

Such would not be the case in AH under the conditions that we have.

Now, if AH night rolled around and the only real and viable options for gameplay were ... bomber vs bomber-hunter ... then I am all for it.

I would love to try a sneak a bomber in under the cover of darkness or I would love to search for prey as a bomber-hunter, but as it is now ... no way ... the only thing that night does is cause people to logoff or jerk around with their gamma, which defeats that purpose all together.

[Kev367th]

Now, if AH night rolled around and the only real and viable options for gameplay were ... bomber vs bomber-hunter ... then I am all for it.

If only we could convince HT to find a way to implement then? Maybe some kind of advantage for night fighter over regular fighter?
Maybe possible with new planes promised after AH2.1.