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« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2004, 08:12:13 AM »
Cant we please just all be friends?

If someone tells u to knock off the lanuage its for a reason and i dont think anyone wants to hear F*ck this and F*ck that Its only a game and people should be nicer to each other because i think of Aces High as a community because we all share basically one arena and and we almost learn to know each other, or is that just how i feel? So i think that AH will be more plesant and fun if we all just stop the anger (or keep it to our selfs) :cool:

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« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2004, 09:12:51 AM »
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also on a side note you might be drawing conclusions to early.

ZAPP could not be ZAPP at all but possible a teenage son.
:) It was not. Unless he has a very "adult" sounding voice. At one point ZAPP even said something about having to act the way he does because he was a member of the Dirty 30. That was not clear on vox so I am not sure if that is exactly right, but lots of other things on vox were.

No need to jump on TrueKill. He is entitled to his opinion, I just don't agree at all with what he said.

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« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2004, 09:20:13 AM »
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TrueKill...........





Thank you american schools & parents for teaching individuals it is alright to say any filthy derrogatory word when ever they please , where ever they please with out consideration of others....
 Um do you know for a fact that every american teenager who goes to school curses. And if they do does it have to do with school No. At my school they dont teach us to curse. Nor do my parrents.

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« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2004, 09:43:27 AM »
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At my school they dont teach us to curse. Nor do my parrents.


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« Reply #49 on: September 12, 2004, 10:02:26 AM »
...What Skuzzy said.

I upped from the base where this squealing prepubescent child could be heard. He was squelched before I hit 2k. End of story.

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« Reply #50 on: September 12, 2004, 10:19:16 AM »
My thoughts:

1)  The game will be better to the extent that we all show some minimal degree of consideration for our fellow players.  I suppose this could include language, to some degree.  I have learned the hard way that there is a large portion of our society who react strongly to swearing, and that it is often practical to be considerate of this preference.  

2)  However, I have not observed that language, including cursing, is anything other than symbolic.  The real quality of a person is independent of whether they swear.  The underlying emotions and willingness to pursue different options are there regardless, and largely independent of external indicators.  There are good people who swear from time to time (like me!!), and there are bad people who never do.  

3)  Look at these boards.  Swearing is generally prohibited.  However about 1/4 of all posts I have read consist of someone trying to hurt someone else verbally.  Are the motivations and actions of these people any more justifiable because they don't swear?  No.  

3)  I believe that a parent should prepare their kid for the fact that language is just an indicator.  Trying to totally shield them from swearing, and other more substantive aspects of human communication, is futile.  They will encounter it eventually.  Better to explain it to them.  That  so-and-so is swearing.  This indicates such-and-such state of mind, which would be there whether he/she was swearing or not.  They may be angry or excited.  It may be a social bonding mechanism used with their on-line friends.  It does not indicate that they are evil or bad persons (although it may show a certain lack of consideration, depending on what forum the swearing is occuring in, and depending on whether they have been asked to tone it down and refused).

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« Reply #51 on: September 12, 2004, 10:29:39 AM »
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I don’t want to see this turn into an ugly angry thread, though I suppose that is my fault.

 and he is responsible for his actions and behavior.  


I think its great when someone of DadDogs distinction in AH brings this stuff to the community's attention.
It also reveals the players who advcocate this behavior thru
the responses in this thread.

It's all about choices. There is absolutely no reason to to be vulgar either on vox or 200.

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« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2004, 10:45:38 AM »
Sax; I still like my distinction between swearing in the first place (which could be ok under certain circumstances), and not responding considerately to a complaint (which isn't ok, at least in AH).

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« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2004, 10:45:43 AM »
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like i said before i like to cuss and y should i have to stop cussin just cuz some1 doesnt want to hear it just like ppl whinein i dont wanna hear it that dont mean ppl are just ganna stop cuz i say so.


TrueKill: Do you cuss so much in real life? As in when you work or in other public places?


Once in a while I can understand that something slips out in frustration but lets at least try to be civil.

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« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2004, 10:52:50 AM »
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Um do you know for a fact that every american teenager who goes to school curses. And if they do does it have to do with school No. At my school they dont teach us to curse. Nor do my parrents.



good grief jetb123,

could you not understand what I was trying to imply here? I did not once say every teenager cursed, I did not say schools teach cursing.........

I did say in a more simple way now, that schools and parents actually do nothing about a student or teenager cursing, they let it slide...meaning they not doing anything about it from fear of being sued or reprimanded by the school board because some parent feels the need to challenge a decision a teacher has taken toward a fouth mouth brat...so in return they give the assumption that it is ok to do this in public with out any consideration to others........might I add, the school teacher and parent also fears they might be charged with abuse for reprimanding a child /teenager for bad conduct or may fear a punk teenager might do something fatal to them for pointing them out or asking them to behave like an young adult

as for  adult people who insist they have a right to curse with out consideration or respect of others, well I take it you probably do do this stuff in game, to put it as Skull12 called me, internet tough guy ( still don't see why he called me that) this is how I view this people who choose such language continously and I would bet a paycheck they would be completely different in a face to face situation.....

as for this thread. 2Bighorn posted the thoughts on this subject by HTC....to me that about wraps it up.....
« Last Edit: September 12, 2004, 10:59:27 AM by TequilaChaser »
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2004, 11:02:37 AM »
TC, not a nice reply to jetb123.  Sounds hostile and patronizing.  

The guy is just stating the facts as he has experienced them in his school(s).  Your response sounds like an emotional one, driven by anti-swearing hysteria.  Assume you are an adult; suggest you act more like one.  

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« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2004, 11:12:21 AM »
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TC, not a nice reply to jetb123.  Sounds hostile and patronizing.  

The guy is just stating the facts as he has experienced them in his school(s).  Your response sounds like an emotional one, driven by anti-swearing hysteria.  Assume you are an adult; suggest you act more like one.  



too funny:lol

my response is my opinion..just like your opinion of me

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btw  TDeacon,  I am not driven by any anti-swearing hysteria, I am simply voicing an opinion of the way I see things happening in AH, and  I was quoted so I felt I should reply with a more explained answer, he quoted me, looking for an answer........how did I act unlike an adult?  I think your post is flamebait........and possibly some of mine have been as well..........the only part of my reply to jb123 that may have been out of line was the good grief   part at the beginning........
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"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #57 on: September 12, 2004, 11:21:30 AM »
TC,

I still think you were unfair to jetb123.  However, my post could have been phrased in a less angry manner.  I was irritated when I wrote it.  

Sorry about that; I don't have a bad opinion of you; just of your post.

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« Reply #58 on: September 12, 2004, 11:23:39 AM »
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TC,

I still think you were unfair to jetb123.  However, my post could have been phrased in a less angry manner.  I was irritated when I wrote it.  

Sorry about that; I don't have a bad opinion of you; just of your post.



fair enough
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #59 on: September 12, 2004, 11:42:33 AM »
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TrueKill...........
Thank you american schools & parents for teaching individuals it is alright to say any filthy derrogatory word when ever they please , where ever they please with out consideration of others....


As a high school teacher, let me jump in here to inform you that the vast majority of my students DO NOT cuss or swear in class.  For the very small minorty that do, a quick discussion on the idea that there are appropriate places for that kind of language (locker room, w/ buddies, etc.) and that the classroom is not one of those places,  usually solves the problem.  Many times it is other students who will tell the offending person to clean up his language.
Although True Kill gets offended that it is implied that he was raised by heathens because he likes to cuss, it is painfully obvious that he was raised by people who had no idea how to respect the rights and wishes of others.
I also wish that HTC would take a definite stand on this issue, and make it clear that profanity and abusive language is not to be tolerated in this game.  As it takes a concious effort to push the mike button before swearing on the vox channel (not to mention typing it in text...), I don't think it can be chalked up to "slipping up."  Even my 15 yr old daughter was shocked when she was in the room one day by what she saw in the text buffer and heard on the radio.
HTC defintely needs to take some action against players who continue to use profane and vulgar language even after being asked to stop by others.