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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2004, 03:25:53 AM »
I'm with Straffo on this one.
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2004, 03:48:32 AM »
Forgot to add : the fact I write against the father doesn't mean in any way I agree with the democrat supporters.
Their fault is equal to the father fault IMO.
2 wrong never make 1 right.

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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2004, 04:09:20 AM »
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Forgot to add : the fact I write against the father doesn't mean in any way I agree with the democrat supporters.
Their fault is equal to the father fault IMO.
2 wrong never make 1 right.


This guy has done this two other times, he's some sort of publicity hound IMO.

OTOH, leading a grieving mother, who's son was killed in Iraq, away in handcuffs from the First Lady's event is OK with some of you pukes, huh?

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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2004, 05:19:13 AM »
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I see a man standing among political adversaries trying to disrupt their gathering and using a child as a shield.


I'm thinking the same. It's like waving a red flag in front of a bunch of dumb bulls...but I think he knew that.

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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2004, 05:22:58 AM »
Incidentally, this incident took place in a town where, when the local Republicans were gathered at the Huntington GOP HQ to watch GWB's acceptance speech during the convention, some unknown person fired a round through the window.
That didn't make national news, but a toddler being used as a political tool does?

Frankly, I condemn both the father and the shooter, but would probably pay money to see them square off without their children/firearm crutches.

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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2004, 08:44:13 AM »
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I see a man standing among political adversaries trying to disrupt their gathering and using a child as a shield.

I'm about as conservative and as loyal a Bush follower as you can get, so I'm loath to say negative things about other conservatives, etc. But I must say that I agree, somewhat, with GS here. That was one of my initial thoughts when I saw this photo. The father bears at least some culpability for this.  Just sad all the way around. Poor kid will prolly relive that moment for years.:(

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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2004, 08:48:44 AM »
Plus someone wearing a tie like that can be really sane.

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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2004, 08:52:01 AM »
I fail to see how a little girl holding a sign up is a disruption to anything.
This wasnt a convention and she wasnt yelling and screaming during a speach

These people claiming its the fathers fault.
It's like blaming a woman for being raped.
Pure BS

Shame on you.

The people who did that to the little girl were punk lowlife animals, nothing more.
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2004, 08:56:15 AM »
DREDIOCK I agree with your punk comment but the father is still responsable,at least partially.

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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2004, 08:58:35 AM »
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I'm about as conservative and as loyal a Bush follower as you can get, so I'm loath to say negative things about other conservatives, etc. But I must say that I agree, somewhat, with GS here. That was one of my initial thoughts when I saw this photo. The father bears at least some culpability for this.  Just sad all the way around. Poor kid will prolly relive that moment for years.:(


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You dont mess with kids.
And you dont mess with kids because of the parents.

There is no excuse for it. None
I'd feel the same way if it were a Kerry supporter.

 Even hardened criminals serving life sentances dispise those who do things against kids

What they did was a disgraceful inexcusable action.
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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2004, 08:59:12 AM »
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I fail to see how a little girl holding a sign up is a disruption to anything.
This wasnt a convention and she wasnt yelling and screaming during a speach

These people claiming its the fathers fault.
It's like blaming a woman for being raped.
Pure BS

Shame on you.

The people who did that to the little girl were punk lowlife animals, nothing more.

DRED, I think everyone agrees that the people who tore up the sign and traumatized the little girl are scum, but I can't help but believe the father, somewhere in the recesses of his brain, knew he was throwing red meat to a dangerous animal, and was irresponsible for dragging his little girl along and placing her in a very potentially hostile environment. Not cool!:rolleyes:

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« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2004, 09:03:22 AM »
My ass. It's like blaming a panderer for paying to have sex.

We've all seen footage of what happens to hecklers who disrupt gatherings of party supporters. If you've forgotten, perhaps you should review the mountain of photos and articles about the GOP convention.
A little girl is not old enough to vote for a reason: she's not an adult, and not capable of rationally deciding between two candidates. Her father is clearly using her here.
I don't approve of kissing babies and crap either, but at least those parents are not traumatizing the kid.
This is a milder form of packing your baby iwth you to a WTO riot, or sending your 7-year-old in full Grand Wizard regalia to a Black Panthers meeting. It's irresponsible parenting, especially in a state where now and in the past, people have not hesitated to resort to deadly force in social-political gatherings.

 We're talking battleground state here in more than just a figurative sense.

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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2004, 09:07:53 AM »
I don't care if the sign said "Tear Me Up". The actions of the people who destroyed the sign were wrong.

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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2004, 09:09:24 AM »
Everyone has the right to free speech...It wasn't a rally...just supporters showing up at an airport...If people show up fron the opposing side then so be it...they can't get angry at that..the fact of the matter is that you DO NOT TOUCH another person or their property without permission..it may only be a campain sign..but I'd probrably file charges aginst those involved just to prove a point to those lowlives...and that bellybutton with the hat on would probrably get a punch in the mouth for that expression on his face. The sad thing is some of you guys feel the Kerry supporters were justified in using a violent act against someone who doesn't share their views...pathetic


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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2004, 09:25:18 AM »
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Everyone has the right to free speech...It wasn't a rally...just supporters showing up at an airport...If people show up fron the opposing side then so be it...they can't get angry at that..the fact of the matter is that you DO NOT TOUCH another person or their property without permission..it may only be a campain sign..but I'd probrably file charges aginst those involved just to prove a point to those lowlives...and that bellybutton with the hat on would probrably get a punch in the mouth for that expression on his face. The sad thing is some of you guys feel the Kerry supporters were justified in using a violent act against someone who doesn't share their views...pathetic


Exactly. Father or not
Actually even if the father alone without the kid had held up the sign, that still would not make it ok for him to have it taken away and torn up.
There isnt an excuse. None. Father , Kid  none.
ESPECIALLY when there is a kid involved.
the Father is not in the wrong here.
Even had he been doing it alone so long as he was doing it peacefully which all indications are he was. And so he would have been well within his rights.
  People do NOT have the right to take away and destroy private property be it a sign they dont agree with or a grocery list.
They wouldnt have done it if they(father and daughter) were walking down the street that way. the only reason they did it there is because they had plenty of other lemmings to back them up.
Sorry but the resoncability is with the attackers 110%not the attacked
It is the ones that tore up the sign that were not being peaceful.



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