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Offline ASTAC

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« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2004, 10:37:06 AM »
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We have a volunteer service.   Parents don't have a say in what their children decide to do.  Her son chose to serve his country.  You'd think she'd respect that.  Her grief is overwhelming her common sense.


That is the point I was trying to make..in addition by blaming the president and the war she dishonors what he belived he was fighting for.
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« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2004, 10:50:57 AM »
these poor people who four express themselves as they experience grief more must be understood as being out of their normal years frame of mind.
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« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2004, 10:54:48 AM »
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these poor people who four express themselves as they experience grief more must be understood as being out of their normal years frame of mind.


At first I thought you must have been drunk...but I get it now:rofl
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« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2004, 11:05:23 AM »
On the contrary Yeager. I believe they are in a very normal frame of mind.  IMO it's people who think they know as fact what she or her son felt, thought and believed in who are not.

 The same kind of "people" who have some gall to tell her what an honor she had in having her sons brains smattered all over a dirt ally in a barbaric, backwards country like Iraq fighting for.....(fill in with the excuse "du jour")... are definitely not.




(p.s. have not seen anyone do something like this for a son lost in Afghanistan. Why do you think..... ?)
« Last Edit: September 17, 2004, 11:13:48 AM by Westy »
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2004, 11:08:50 AM »
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We have a volunteer service.   Parents don't have a say in what their children decide to do.  Her son chose to serve his country.  You'd think she'd respect that.  Her grief is overwhelming her common sense.


I'd haveto agree with that. and isnt the job of diffusing bombs and mines something you also volounteer for.
Somehow I dont think they issue that kind of duty  at random.

I kinda understand her greif or at least I've seen it.
I lost my oldest and best friend last year when he was decapitated by a car. While crossing a highway in poor light condidions
Now I dont see the driver being at fault inasmuch as he My friend) was trashed drunk and decided to walk down the road in the drivers lane during a green light.
Now I myself have almost hit people on this streatch of road as because fo the way its lit and with oncomming traffic you dont see anyone walking untill your right on top of them.
His sister doesnt agree. And only knows her brother is dead and so there must be someone to blame. And it cant be him even though in reality it was him.

A poor comparison I know But what im getting at is misplaced anger. Her son is dead. It cant be an accident someone has to be blamed for it.
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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2004, 12:12:29 PM »
Her response is based on the cause for which her son died, or lack of therefore.

Had he died in a just war, such as WWII, I'm sure she would be proud of his sacrifice.

While it is true that service members expect that they might die while in, there is also an understanding, one which US military proudly bears on the forefront, that soldiers lifes will not be thrown away.

Her son's was.

Hence she's pissed.
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2004, 12:16:14 PM »
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Her response is based on the cause for which her son died, or lack of therefore.

Had he died in a just war, such as WWII, I'm sure she would be proud of his sacrifice.

While it is true that service members expect that they might die while in, there is also an understanding, one which US military proudly bears on the forefront, that soldiers lifes will not be thrown away.

Her son's was.

Hence she's pissed.


That's just crap.

Her son died in the war on terror.  You think that's a waste.  Her son apparently didn't.
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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2004, 12:20:17 PM »
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Her response is based on the cause for which her son died, or lack of therefore.

Had he died in a just war, such as WWII, I'm sure she would be proud of his sacrifice.


Alot of Americans thought we should stay out of WWII at the time.

How do you know she would not have been one of them?

Hindsight is always 20/20.
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« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2004, 12:21:29 PM »
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While it is true that service members expect that they might die while in, there is also an understanding, one which US military proudly bears on the forefront, that soldiers lifes will not be thrown away.

Her son's was.



Tell that to the 24 million people he helped free.
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« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2004, 12:21:43 PM »
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That's just crap.

Her son died in the war on terror.  You think that's a waste.  Her son apparently didn't.


How do you know what the son thought?

And why do you always assume that every serviceman who dies, would feel that they died for a good cause?

That's a little beyond wishful thinking.
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« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2004, 12:22:47 PM »
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How do you know what the son thought?

And why do you always assume that every serviceman who dies, would feel that they died for a good cause?

That's a little beyond wishful thinking.


Obviously he didn't feel so strongly against it that he left the service.  He was there fighting.
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« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2004, 12:28:35 PM »
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Obviously he didn't feel so strongly against it that he left the service.  He was there fighting.


That's news to me, I didn't realize you could leave the service any old time you wanted to.

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« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2004, 12:29:01 PM »
Her son volunteered when there was already a good chance that we were going in Iraq. He knew what he was getting into and VOLUNTEERED.  God bless him for his sacrifice.  The mother has every right to grieve, even protest, but she chose the venue unwisely(perhaps her judgement was clouded by grief and who can blame her for that?)

I don't like that she was shouted down.  She should have been treated with respect by all in attendance then asked to leave for disrupting the event.
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« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2004, 12:31:21 PM »
You guys should really stop making up stuff to suit your pov.

Here's the truth.

http://www.counterpunch.org/weill05222004.html



"you could leave the service any old time you wanted to"

lol.  banana? You didn't know you can if you have the right political connections and want to shill for Congressmen in Alabama?
« Last Edit: September 17, 2004, 12:34:07 PM by Westy »
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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2004, 12:32:50 PM »
The woman was irrational regardless of how sympathetic you may feel. There are a 1000 ways she could express herself.

She's been running about the country making a fool of herself. If she feels her son died for nothing that’s all on her. He volunteered and did his duty. He was not ripped from her arms and sent to war.

I wouldn't tolerate her screaming at me. If it’s some sort of therapy for her to do so then I would refer her to mental health facility. Don't act as if every Rep at that rally knew who she was. Any kook could slip in and pull the same thing. I would have shouted her down as well.

We can all try to understand her emotions and be sensitive of her loss but we don't need to excuse her behavior.

GWB didn't kill her son.
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