Kerry is holding public office illegally...

[Sandman]

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"U.S. law forbids private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on matters such as peace treaties."

Even Kerry's biased spin admits he was seriously close to violating that law, so you can guess what the truth ofd the mattrer was...
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Well... if we're going to get all legal about it... The Vietnam conflict  was not a war.

[GRUNHERZ]

Whatever you need to do to feel better about Kerry...

[Sandman]

I don't have to feel good about Kerry. I feel bad enough about Bush.


C'mon Grun... you can vote just to cancel me.

[GRUNHERZ]

Ahh yes the glory of voting, I just might do it this time around..  Will write-in some obscenties, that will be the most honest vote I can think of..

[lasersailor184]

If Kerry hadn't made vietnam such an important topic this wouldn't have ever come up.


It's not like we are digging through deep books of laws trying to find some wierd clause to try to get Kerry with.

We're looking at ammendment 14 of the constitution.  And we don't have to interpret anything to see that Kerry can't hold public office by his own claims.



Btw, Kerry was an Officer of the US at that time when he talked to the PRG.  He was required to do some time as a Officer in the reserves after he got out.  So he was not a civilian.

[Urchin]

I think I'm voting for Charlie Brown... maybe Snoopy as a dark horse.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I'm voting for Jimmy Cracked Corn, because I don't care!
-SW

[Furious]

I am voting for Mason, cuz he posts the best pr0n.

[capt. apathy]

"U.S. law forbids private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on matters such as peace treaties."

talking with them and negotiating are 2 completely different things.  if he didn't offer concessions, make demands, or actually try to set up terms and conditions of a peace treaty he wasn't negotiating, he was discussing.

from fox news---------------------------
"Senator Kerry had no role whatsoever in the Paris peace talks or negotiations. He did not engage in any negotiations and did not attend any session of the talks. Prior to his Senate testimony, he went to Paris on a private trip, where he had one brief meeting with Madame Binh and others. In an effort to find facts, he learned the status of the peace talks from their point of view and about any progress in resolving the conflict, particularly as it related to the fate of the POWs."
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so while on a private trip he has a meeting, he doesn't take part in any negotiations or even attend them as an observer.

  he did get a chance to talk with some of the NV representatives. he asked them questions about the fate of our POW's and questions relating to their release if the negotiations (that again he took no part in) were successful.

OK, I can see your side of the issue now.-  
 an ex US serviceman who served in Vietnam (yes technically he was on inactive reserve.  unless you end up getting called up for an emergency, thats out of the service, it has no pay or duties), has a chance to talk to representatives from NV.  he has the meeting and asks how they think the talks are going and about the fate of fellow servicemen who are being held captive, asks of their welfare and questions regarding their release.  
   ya, what a traitorous, low-life scumbag.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Sandman
New conservative protest theme: Dissent is TREASON!!

you're mistaken , it's not new.

[SaburoS]

Kerry was trying to get our prisoners released. That's treason? LOL, some here need to get a grip.
Show me the official charges of treason by our government.
Then show me his conviction.
Until then, your warped sense of saying it so doesn't make it so.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by SaburoS
Kerry was trying to get our prisoners released. That's treason? LOL, some here need to get a grip.
Show me the official charges of treason by our government.
Then show me his conviction.
Until then, your warped sense of saying it so doesn't make it so.

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Thats the Democratic spin on it ^^

Here is the law:
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Any person who . . . without proper authority, knowingly . . . communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly, shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
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At the time he went to talk to the VC government officials in gay Paris, he was still a military officer. That TV show JAG could do an episode on this story. When he came back he talked smack about our military. Those poor SOBs in the POW camps were mad to listen to Kerry’s Senate testimony. The VC prison guards really put the pressure on the POWs to sign confessions i.e. they got medieval on them. The last Dem/socialist spin is, Kerry went to Paris for his honeymoon.

[capt. apathy]

Originally posted by Ripsnort_____________________ ___________
Any person who . . . without proper authority, knowingly . . . communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly, shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
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"as a court-martial or military commission may direct."

so, he'd actually have to be charged, tried, have actual evidence and testimony brought against him, given a chance to defend himself in court, and then be convicted and sentenced by a court martial or military commission.

his right to hold public office can't be revoked by a group of neo-cons on an internet BBS?  man, that was a close one.  he sure got lucky there.

[SaburoS]

What spin, he himself testified that he did have contacts with NV personell about the release of our US soldiers.
Again, you spin it. Where's the official charge of "treason"? Conviction?
Oh, I get it! By your logic then Bush is guilty or being AWOL, or desertion! Wow, things are sooo much easier when we actually don't have to have trials to determine one's guilt. Spin away Rip, spin away!

[GRUNHERZ]

Saburo even the best Kerry's spin machine could say was the he he was bordering on violatring that law...