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Offline SaburoS

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Kerry is holding public office illegally...
« Reply #60 on: September 25, 2004, 02:41:12 PM »
Martlet, you state Kerry negotiated with the NV officials. You know that for a fact or are you guessing here? Kerry admitted to meeting with the NV officials (I've posted that what 3 times already?) about releasing our prisoners. It is public record, not something that Kerry is hiding. He himself testified to it.
What did Kerry have to negotiate with?
Changing topics? Hardly. I was showing you how you yourself want to see evidence/conviction/proof (not a bad thing actually) when someone makes charges against a Republican, yet when it involves a Democrat, innuendoes are proof enough. Remember, meeting with some officials does not mean negotiating with them.
I'm asking you for the proof that you know for a fact that Kerry negotiated with NV officials.
BTW, just to clear the record, I don't know for a fact that Bush was AWOL or that he deserted during his service. "Evidence" so far stated is not concrete enough to convince me. Could he have? Sure. But he very well could have served out his time.
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Kerry is holding public office illegally...
« Reply #61 on: September 25, 2004, 03:53:40 PM »
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Martlet, you state Kerry negotiated with the NV officials. You know that for a fact or are you guessing here? Kerry admitted to meeting with the NV officials (I've posted that what 3 times already?) about releasing our prisoners. It is public record, not something that Kerry is hiding. He himself testified to it.
What did Kerry have to negotiate with?
Changing topics? Hardly. I was showing you how you yourself want to see evidence/conviction/proof (not a bad thing actually) when someone makes charges against a Republican, yet when it involves a Democrat, innuendoes are proof enough. Remember, meeting with some officials does not mean negotiating with them.
I'm asking you for the proof that you know for a fact that Kerry negotiated with NV officials.
BTW, just to clear the record, I don't know for a fact that Bush was AWOL or that he deserted during his service. "Evidence" so far stated is not concrete enough to convince me. Could he have? Sure. But he very well could have served out his time.



April 22, 1971 LEGISLATIVE PROPOSALS RELATING TO THE WAR IN SOUTHEAST ASIA -
UNITED STATES SENATE;
COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS,
Washington, D.C.

The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 11:05 a.m., in Room 4221, New Senate Office Building, Senator J. W. Fulbright (Chairman) presiding.
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CHAIRMAN. Do you support or do you have any particular views about any one of them you wish to give the committee?

KERRY. My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned.
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KERRY. Mr. Chairman, I realize that full well as a study of political science. I realize that we cannot negotiate treaties and I realize that even my visits in Paris, precedents had been set by Senator McCarthy and others, in a sense are on the borderline of private individuals negotiating, et cetera. I understand these things. But what I am saying is that I believe that there is a mood in this country which I know you are aware of and you have been one of the strongest critics of this war for the longest time. But I think if we can talk in this legislative body about filibustering for porkbarrel programs, then we should start now to talk about filibustering for the saving of lives and of our country.
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