Author Topic: Falluja and military strategery (Read 612 times)

AKIron · « **on:** September 23, 2004, 09:31:25 PM »

My son and I were discussing Iraq. He can't understand why we don't just level the city and be done with it. I told him that besides the political aspect it makes sense to encourage the insurgents to congregate at a central battlefield. Makes identifying the enemy much easier and as they commit more and more of their forces to this area we will eventually be able to unleash our full military might against more of them.

Opinions?

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2004, 09:36:24 PM »

you simply can't kill them all.

Flit · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2004, 09:37:01 PM »

Sounds like a plan to me

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2004, 09:40:16 PM »

Civilians. We took a war to their country, just the same as terrorists took their war to ours.

Can't just be pissed about the civilian lives lost in our country and turn a blind eye towards the ones there - wiping them out senselessly.
-SW

Gixer · « **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2004, 09:43:54 PM »

Problem is the problem isn't just confined to Falluja, or ever will be. The militas will just take the fight somewhere else.

~~...-Gixer~~

AKIron · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2004, 09:53:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Gixer
Problem is the problem isn't just confined to Falluja, or ever will be. The militas will just take the fight somewhere else.

~~...-Gixer~~

These militia do not have infinite numbers. If they perceive Falluja as the stronghold to resist the coalition and particularly the US will they not gather there to strengthen the force defeating the infidel? How would one go about encouraging this?

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2004, 10:05:26 PM »

but iron lets face it as long as they have support from outside groups then you might as well call it infinite.

Nash · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2004, 10:38:44 PM »

Prolly 5,000 of these insurgents a coupla months ago.

20,000 of them now.

My god, they seem to multiply. Funny how that works.

You think 20,000 is a lot? I do.

But it's a drop in the bucket.

You being happy about them congregating in a single place (false, btw) reminds me of an old movie called Zulu.

Nefarious · « **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2004, 11:05:30 PM »

It must be hard to explain the War to a Child (Just guessing on how old your kid is), In my oppinion your statement is good.

Although, when you tell him that allowing them to build in mass so "We can uleash our full military might" against them, He probably thinks you meant "level the city and be done with it" anyway.

-tronski- · « **Reply #9 on:** September 23, 2004, 11:07:20 PM »

Because leveling Grozny worked wonders didn't it....

Tronsky

Gunslinger · « **Reply #10 on:** September 23, 2004, 11:16:46 PM »

alot of you guys are comparing apples to oranges here. No one is ever or wants to level faluja except for the insurgents holding the city. They'd love to see all the civies killed there because it helps their cause.

The truth of the matter is they are in fact contained there. Yes, every other citizen of faluja suffers but with hope and effort that can all end.

To think all is lost in Iraq is an opinion I just don't comprehend. Then again I have alot of friends that have been there or are currently there and they see such a different opinion of the place than that of what's being painted in the media.

Even between countrys the coverage is different. I've heard that places like the UK all you see at the nightly news is devistation and carnage in Iraq every night (I might be wrong that's just what I heard) if that's the case than yes you would have a negative opinion on the subject. But, the people that are there paint a completly opposit opinion of what's going on.

My opinion.....yes it's a mess....but not one that can't be untangled if it is allowed to succeed.

Nash · « **Reply #11 on:** September 23, 2004, 11:21:46 PM »

How nice...

Brace yourself.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #12 on:** September 23, 2004, 11:22:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
How nice...

Brace yourself.

for what?

AKIron · « **Reply #13 on:** September 24, 2004, 12:17:40 AM »

Much easier to destroy an enemy willing to fight in the open than one hiding among civilians. Maybe not in practicality but easier on the conscience anyhow.

Sorry to disappoint some of you but I refuse to feel responsible for creating terrorists that would deny freedom for the sake of their religion.

Nefarious · « **Reply #14 on:** September 24, 2004, 12:26:09 AM »

On Topic: I thought this thread was about how Iron explained the events in Fallujah? Not Armchair Strategy about how the war should be fought.

Off Topic: hey Flit, My dad lives in Winchester and I used to live in Shepherdstown WV, Maybe next time I'm in She-town we could meet at the Mechlenburg Inn? or Tony's? You familiar with Shepherdstown?