Author Topic: New gunsights to see over the nose.  (Read 717 times)

Beurling

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New gunsights to see over the nose.
« on: January 10, 2001, 01:01:00 PM »
I know alot of you guys have these.
I do not use them. I feel this is a unfair advantage.

Anyone else think its unrealistic? I dont mind custom gunsights but moveing the head up and forward that needs to be changed.

This is the one place the view system sucks.
RW pilots had belts that kept them from looking over the nose in fights. You think they would pull 3 g's sit forward and look?

This was ww2 a age before super nutrition and gh laced milk. How many 6 foot 6 guys flew fighters? Raiseing your view up that hi is totaly unrealistic.

This is a crutch imo.


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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2001, 01:34:00 PM »
Where'd ya see these? 1st I've heard of it.



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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2001, 01:35:00 PM »
Huh?  Does he know sumthin' that we don't?

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2001, 01:35:00 PM »
sounds like...

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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2001, 01:50:00 PM »
Smells like....

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2001, 01:57:00 PM »
It is.

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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2001, 02:01:00 PM »
If you're talking about the ability to 'rise up' in your seat while flying, I challenge you to dogfight from that position...not only does your gunsight disappear, but your view for angle and trajectory is so distorted that it makes it damn near impossible for me to hit a B17 at d100 yards away...try it.

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2001, 02:09:00 PM »
What he talks about is this:
Go into your gunsight file and edit (move) the aiming reticle to the top of the file.
Then go into your plane, fire your guns and move you head up in the seat so that the bullit convergence is aligned with the newly raised reticle.

What this does is allow you a little bit more of a view over the cowling but no by much.  People have been doing this since beta.  Does it help in a scrap? I dont know.

IS it a cheat?  depends on what your definition of IS is.

I personally dont think it is.

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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2001, 02:13:00 PM »
Well that an easy answer, let's say the travel to a full upright position is 6", now figure that the cowling is what, about 8 feet out there?  Do the math, hardly worth the effort for viewing that addional 1 foot of A/C that just went under your nose.

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2001, 02:16:00 PM »
Hell I call it sighting you're gun in.

What the hell happened in real life if a pilot was to tall. hell I move my point of view all the time to the top but not the gun site I find it to hard to match it just perfect. If players have the fenesse to get there gunsight re-alighned and sighted in just perfect to get a few inches of vew over the nose more power to them!<S>


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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2001, 03:20:00 PM »
I am one of those, I still s*ck at Gunnery though  

Does give you a little "edge" in the Pony or P47 view, but not much in anything else. (forget about it for the 109's).

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2001, 03:44:00 PM »
Read Andy Bush's new article...tells of this little adjustment. Yeags correct...been done since early beta...I tried it and didn't like that I couldn't see my gauges as well.

Different Strokes....

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2001, 05:04:00 PM »
I heard about it many times too, but still do not know anyone who tried it and stayed with it. It gives some advantage in turn fight, but if you tries to snap at long distance it makes it harder. Actually I tried it for 2 weeks, but found that this put my gunnery down on some 10-15%, so went back to old one.

And it is not a cheating IMO.

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2001, 05:23:00 PM »
Most WW2 aircraft have vertically adjustable seats. Usually, the canopy determines how far you can raise it; an average height guy can bump his head on the perspex using seat height adjustment.

Sitting height is a personal preference. I used to work with a guy that always ran the seat full up. Most guys set it so that they are looking out the middle of the front windscreen in my experience. Anyway, full up worked real well for this guy; said he could see more of the runway. I tried it and went back to my old place.

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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2001, 05:31:00 PM »
I dont think its cheating.

I do think the front view should be the same for all.
No mods alowed.

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