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Offline NUKE

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« Reply #45 on: October 06, 2004, 11:33:32 PM »
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None of which made him an immediate threat.


Was he a threat to the US when he invaded Kuwait?
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« Reply #46 on: October 06, 2004, 11:37:37 PM »
No.
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« Reply #47 on: October 06, 2004, 11:39:41 PM »
No, Nuke, he was a threat when he gave safe harbor to terrorists (Abu Nidal), provided support (Hamas homicide bomber bonuses) and training (Saloman Pak).  Coupled with his attacks on his nieghbors, including Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Isreal, along with his failure to comply with UN sanctions made him a threat impossible to ignore.
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« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2004, 03:17:10 AM »
A theat to do what exactly?
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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2004, 05:11:26 AM »
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No, Nuke, he was a threat when he gave safe harbor to terrorists (Abu Nidal), provided support (Hamas homicide bomber bonuses) and training (Saloman Pak).  Coupled with his attacks on his nieghbors, including Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and Isreal, along with his failure to comply with UN sanctions made him a threat impossible to ignore.


Abu Nidal's beef was with Israel, not the US. He hadn't hit "western" targets since the 1980's. Some of his last victims are believed to include PLO chiefs Abu Iyad and Abu Hul. You class him as a major threat to the USA?

Hamas likewise doesn't target US interests.

None of the claims made by Iraqi opposition sources regarding Salman Pak being used to train Islamic extremists have ever been sustantiated as far as I can tell. Bear in mind that these are the most likely the same Iraqi oppostion sources that Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz et al were so keen to listen to on the WMD issue prior to the invasion, but from whom they are now quietly distancing themselves.

So basically, your rationale is that the invasion was carried out in the interests of Israel, and on the basis of unsubstantiated claims made by unnamed sources whose other claims on Iraq are increasingly being proved to be baseless, correct?
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« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2004, 06:27:34 AM »
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Nash, did you read the report, or at least the Key points?

I am guessing you did not; you only read the reporting of what the report said.  Shame on you for being a sheep.



Did you read the part where most of the Iraqi top leaders thought they had WMD's?
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« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2004, 07:22:55 AM »
since he stalled and jacked the uN around for 12 years...

glad Bush took action on the nutbag saddam

one less nutbag in the world...

ready to move on to the next one - either the one right next door with the towel on his head or slant eyes with the wild hair right around the corner
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Re: and we'd known what if we didn't take action?
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2004, 01:07:28 PM »
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since he stalled and jacked the uN around for 12 years...

glad Bush took action on the nutbag saddam

one less nutbag in the world...



Actually with all the recruiting that AQ is doing down there, it's more like several more nutbags in the world.
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« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2004, 01:26:09 PM »
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Did you read the part where most of the Iraqi top leaders thought they had WMD's?


Interesting point,

If Iraqi leaders thought they had WMD I guess there intelligence was also bad. How were we supposed to know other wise? this includes Russia as they were just as fooled as the rest of the world. Kerry also believed they had WMD when it was not politely convenient to think otherwise.

Saddam did a good job of fooling the world, to good. Seems the old fox outsmarted himself.



I just love Monday morning quarterbacking as well as the next
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« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2004, 04:52:57 PM »
Link to the Executive Summary of the new report.  Very interesting reading, and not too long at 19 pages (a relative assessment from one used to reading gov't reports:)).

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Comp_Report_Key_Findings.pdf
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« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2004, 06:15:55 PM »
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This is just brilliant. Figures that for my very first ever presidential vote...I get to vote for who will do the least amount of damage in the next four years.

Kerry and his "change with the wind" platform...

...or...

Bush and his "Well, I thought they were there!" platform.

Great...no pressure here...:(


Get used to it. Its been that way for a while.

Probably gonna be that way for the forseeable future too
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« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2004, 06:18:42 PM »
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They didn't comply. They died.


Yea. Damn shame wasnt it? LOL
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« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2004, 07:41:50 PM »

Iraqi WMD will be found next to Jimmy Hoffa.
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« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2004, 11:56:56 PM »
Americans who fell in "WMDs in Iraq" slogan are propably similar folks who though at Germany in thirties that Poland really was a threat to Nazi-Germany.

Propaganda is a very powerfull tool and it's understandable some of you, the weaker minds, fell to it  :aok
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« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2004, 12:12:26 AM »
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Americans who fell in "WMDs in Iraq" slogan are propably similar folks who though at Germany in thirties that Poland really was a threat to Nazi-Germany.

Propaganda is a very powerfull tool and it's understandable some of you, the weaker minds, fell to it  :aok


Really? Since you brought up the Nazis allow me to point out a few similarities between Hussein and Hitler. Both hated and would annihilate all Jews if they could. Both were strong arm dictators that murdered many of their own. Both aggressively invaded their neighbors looking to dominate their entire regions.

I think we learned something about this sort of aggression from WWII.
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