returned a dozen or so saicrap's
and a dozen or so logitech's
dont you read the bb, i posted it like 3 weeks ago
if your gonna buy a good stick be prepaired to spend good money.
if you dont want to spend a lot a money then i suggest the logitech 3d rumble force(get the wingman series) its my second!
has 8way hat trick, twist rudder control, force feed back, centering spring and 7 programable button's.
all for around 70 bucks includeing shipping, because the only way i found it was online.
