Author Topic: Widescale Biodiesel Production from Algae (Read 1420 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #15 on:** October 20, 2004, 02:51:05 PM »

Might be interesting to note that every single president since nixon has promised to try to reduce our dependance on foreign oil.

None have succeeded

I'd be willing to bet good money neither Bush nor Kerry will either

vorticon · « **Reply #16 on:** October 20, 2004, 02:59:07 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
I used to produce hydrogen as a kid.....made my own hydrogen "balloons'" out of very large garbage bags. And I didn't use electrolysis.

cool, how?

biodiesel looks like a bloody good alternative. certainly more viable than hydrogen, and more usefull overall than solar/wind.

Mini D · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2004, 04:06:31 PM »

I wonder why he didn't break it down all the way to price per gallon of biodiesel vs price per gallon of diesel and just compare it to biodiesel vs diesel costs. The numbers themselves are skewed from every aspect.

MiniD

Tuomio · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2004, 04:19:05 PM »

If the oil barrel prices will continue to grow rapidly, these kinds of alternatives will pop out in no time. If or when they have been mass produced for some years, the costs will come down. I mean spiralling down, with gene manipulation to become more efficent etc. Crop based diesel has the advantage, that it will have lots of competition unlike Opec trust. It just needs the initial push whether its government money or the barrel prices rocketing up.

I dont think the crop rotation would be a problem.

montag · « **Reply #19 on:** October 20, 2004, 04:44:18 PM »

Doesnt matter to me what fuel im burning so long as the engine makes cool sounds.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #20 on:** October 20, 2004, 04:57:50 PM »

FWIW, Bio-diesel in this area costs $3.50 a gallon.

Elfie · « **Reply #21 on:** October 20, 2004, 05:40:01 PM »

There was another thread with a link for bio-fuel. That company was using waste from a turkey processing plant.

Just think if we could make it so NO ONE had to buy oil from the Arabs anymore. What would that do to the middle east?

This guys process can turn almost any kind of waste including, sewage, old tires, animal waste, old computers etc, etc, etc, into a light crude. Basically ANY carbon based waste can be converted to crude. The only difference is the *cook times*. Even the big oil companies would benefit since they produce waste that can be reprocessed into crude again.

Companies like that Con-Agra turkey plant in Carthage Missouri pay to have the waste removed. Now they can pay to have it removed and see it turned into oil.

http://www.realdemocracy.com/cheapoil.htm

http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/ar-news/Week-of-Mon-20030804/004435.html

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/4/24/02152/3927

There was another article from a newspaper in Missouri that stated the plant was in a test mode and should have been running in production mode last January I believe. Also, there were advaced negotiations in progress to open 4 more plants, one here in Colorado, one in Italy and I cant recall where the other 2 where gonna be.

*edit* almost forgot, this guy that had the plant built in Carthage estimates that they can eventually get the price per barrel down to $10-$12 per barrel. If he does in fact get the prices that low we can say good-bye to Arab oil. That would mean no more super-tankers spilling oil, lower gas prices for EVERYONE.

DieAz · « **Reply #22 on:** October 21, 2004, 06:07:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Mini D
I wonder why he didn't break it down all the way to price per gallon of biodiesel vs price per gallon of diesel and just compare it to biodiesel vs diesel costs. The numbers themselves are skewed from every aspect.

MiniD

it says on one of the many pages of this site, you can make biodiesel for as little as 50 cents a gallon.
http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel.html

can't remb which page it was on. a lot of info about a lot of things can be found there.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #23 on:** October 21, 2004, 07:30:48 AM »

Question,

Why is it we havent put more emphasis on Alcohol.
Doesnt Alcohol burn practically pollution free?

JBA · « **Reply #24 on:** October 21, 2004, 07:35:23 AM »

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Originally posted by CyranoAH
BIODIESEL GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!

LOL,
think I'll watch that this weekend.

lazs2 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 21, 2004, 08:50:29 AM »

you guys do realize that algae screams when it is harvested?

lazs

DieAz · « **Reply #26 on:** October 21, 2004, 09:07:49 AM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Question,

Why is it we havent put more emphasis on Alcohol.
Doesnt Alcohol burn practically pollution free?

blame it on the BATF

AKIron · « **Reply #27 on:** October 21, 2004, 09:35:18 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
you guys do realize that algae screams when it is harvested?

lazs

When Curly first showed this to me I had visions of some algae experiment going awry and covering the entire world, kinda like kudzu.

Sixpence · « **Reply #28 on:** October 21, 2004, 09:43:06 AM »

Been saying it for about a year now. Rudolph Diesel's vision was that biodiesel would boost agriculture where it was used.

OIO · « **Reply #29 on:** October 21, 2004, 10:00:02 AM »

so instead of relying on arab oil we'll depend on asian seaweed farms.

crazy world indeed