Think they'll do it?

[lada]

yeeeep true, nice post babek

but i wouldnt say that they fear Arabs....

Its more like with a Turks. They are convinced , that average Turkish is educateless donkey.  I dont know if they fear them or not, but its true, that when i meet some Arabs in Persia, they were somehow marked as guests. Or when somebody introduced me iranian with arabic roots, they never ever forget to mention it


However you forget to say, that  last Shah was supported by americans. But he were as inteligent as Saddam. Revollution in 80`s were not supposed to bring Islamic goverment. It were revolution to get rid of lobotomized Shah, who were consider to be US`s sheep.
Like vote for Kerry means No Bush anymore.
Religion party  used(abused) situation and took power in that time.

However country is changing rapidly and life standart is growing.

[Gh0stFT]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
A civil discussion on weather or not you think israel will take preembtive action against Iran if they persue proliferation of Nuke weapons.

My opinion says,  i dont wanna think about where this could lead,
the whole region is more explosive then TNT.

[Saintaw]

...and you are assuming that Iran is completely stoopid, and keeps it's production medium in little wooden huts. Seeing what happened to their neighbours (yes, I think they do have access to television) they are likely to hide those. Bunker buster or not, will you take the chance to hit, and miss one or more location? Too dangerous.

[Momus--]

More hype aimed at whipping up fear of the Islamic bogeyman.

The Iranians aren't stupid enough to use a nuke aggressively, either against Israel or anyone else. They want them for the same reason every other nuclear power has them, for deterrence and as a guarantee of national independence.

The anti-zionist rhetoric that emanates from Tehran is no different to the utterances from clerics in Eqypt, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, yet the US sees fit to call these nations allies. Stupid "Axis of evil" pronouncements by Bush only serve to entrench the Iranian mullahs and roll back the creeping progress of liberalisation in the country.

They want nukes because Israel has them and because the USA has demonstrated its willingness to resort to military action in pursuit of replacing uncompliant regimes with compliant regardless of whether they are a threat or not.

Israel isn't scared about being nuked. They know, just as we know and the Iranians know, that any aggressive use of a nuclear weapon would be met by overwhelming retaliation by the USA and european powers.  What scares Israel more is the consequent shift in the regional balance of power, skewed for so long in Israel's favour thanks to her unilateral nuclear capability. Israel could no longer act with impunity with relation to the Palestinian territories and would be forced to do something that they have successfully avoided for the last two decades, which is to negotiate in good faith with a view to ending the occupation of the west bank.

Hence the squawking from the pro-Israel neocons currently.

[lada]

Originally posted by Saintaw
...and you are assuming that Iran is completely stoopid, and keeps it's production medium in little wooden huts. Seeing what happened to their neighbours (yes, I think they do have access to television) they are likely to hide those. Bunker buster or not, will you take the chance to hit, and miss one or more location? Too dangerous.

baaaah ... dude i noted that you are not french... but according to colours in your sign, you must be german

[Torque]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Israel just bought a cubic metric s**tload of bunker busters.  I wonder what they are for?

I think what Holden really meant to say, was that American taxpayers bought Israel a chitload of bunker busters.

[lada]

Originally posted by Torque
I think what Holden really meant to say, was that American taxpayers bought Israel a chitload of bunker busters.

actualy who owen company who produce it or sell it to israel.....  damm this world is sooo smalll

[Flyboy]

Originally posted by lada
Wow ... realy ... thats odd.... non of my iranian friends around know anyhing about sutch goal.

However.... my Kurdish friend from Kermanshash, proud iranian, had very good relation ships with his jewish neigbour.... .

But you probably hear it on CNN, so its holy true..


Yeah ..... and every month there is many Tons of Drugs, whitch leave Iran trough Iraq or Azerbaijdzan...... I guess you probably belive that those drugs has been grow by Iranain goverment, to destroy Western youths ... right ?

And we better do not talk about Afghanistan and Russia. Coz average american is probably convinced, that there is not smugliing in Iran, they simply produce all those baaaad things to silently destroy you....... rofl

CNN?
no my friend- theres a "if israel does that and that we will destroy it bla bla bla" by some iranian official atleast once a month, i do hear on the news and i do belive what i hear, its not exactly the kind of stuff you make up...

as for the rest of your reply... sorry i completely lost you there,


but you know what i have an idea.
lets Email iran's Foreign Ministry and ask them what is their official stand regarding israel
what do you say?

[Wolfala]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
A civil discussion on weather or not you think israel will take preembtive action against Iran if they persue proliferation of Nuke weapons.


My opinion says yes.  They did it before with Iraq and Sadam, they will do it again.  Israels neighbors are hell bent on destroying her, they would see this as in the best interest of national security.

The current admin will decry the action publicly but will probably be happy it got done and our hands are clean of it.

Isreal was more then willing to wack Saddam during Gulf War 1. Satellite pass's over their missile fields showed their silo's open which brought the US in - only reason they showed restraint was the PAC-2's they rolled in in defense of the Al husseins. But i'm sure if they had chem and not conventional warheads we wouldn't be speculating in this fourm.

Wolfala

[Wolfala]

Originally posted by Staga

What happens when muslim radical goes to an elevator and presses the button?
Whole building goes down.

Staga is thus revealed as nothing more than a ****ing ticking timebomb bi-polar nerd with more accounts than a social life would permit, just waiting for the proper situation to explode. Everyone is missing "your point" because you can't form one properly. Listen, ok? Brush your hair off your entended forehead, whipe that sweat off your unibrow, and look
in the mirror. You're a mongoloid.

Wolfala

[Chortle]

but you know what i have an idea.
lets Email iran's Foreign Ministry and ask them what is their official stand regarding israel
what do you say?

info@iran-embassy.org.uk

This was the only one I could find in the time available. Maybe send them a link to this thread too

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I hope you all realise that this whole "Ameristalker" labelling trend is just as retarded as Freedom Fries. Which is even more retarded than calling someone a liberal because it's viewed to be an insult by those throwing around the label.

So basically, any argument in which it is used becomes retarded - and so is the poster.
-SW

[DREDIOCK]

Unfortunately,I think the threat of any mideastern country of using missles to deliver nukes is rather remote.

I say its unfortunate because I think the most likely way they would deliver them is by some sort of personal human delivery system. Such as the suicide bombers.

Then nations like Iran, can "officially" disavow any knowledge of it

[Staga]

Originally posted by Wolfala
Staga is thus revealed as nothing more than a ****ing ticking timebomb bi-polar nerd with more accounts than a social life would permit, just waiting for the proper situation to explode. Everyone is missing "your point" because you can't form one properly. Listen, ok? Brush your hair off your entended forehead, whipe that sweat off your unibrow, and look
in the mirror. You're a mongoloid.

Wolfala

Are those the meaniest insults you could figure out? Oh well, have a nice day

[TheDudeDVant]

I'm with lada here.. Where are the 'official' quotes outta Iran declaring them calling for the fall or Isreal?? For the fall of America?

I figured there must be many, but i have yet to see any??

Personally I can't blame them if they were trying to get a a bomb..