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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #60 on: October 25, 2004, 08:28:35 AM »
Wow way to have a discussion Lada,

About Iran having no history of attacking anyone is completly irrelevent.  

Radicaly Fundamentalist Islam = Hate and wanten destruction of the jewish state  What kind of Govt is in power right now in Iran?  How you so easily want to right off any discussion of this a rhetoric because "your Iranian friends never talk about it" is about as dumb as your ramblings of how Iran is such a nation of peace and the US has attacked somone recently...therfore US = bad Iran = good.

PPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAS SSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE!

This holier than thou attitude makes me sick from both sides.  NO the US does not have it's hand's clean in the region but then again neither does Iran.  Neocon....Liberal....amerista lker....to me they they are all haters....they are driven by their hate of what ever ideology they opposes this week and will side with/say anything in order to prove to themselves that the hate is still there.  

It is a FACT that an Iranian Nuke is a threat to Israel.  Whether they will use them preemtively is not in question.

It is a FACT that Israel veiws a fascist radical muslim country with nukes as a threat and HAS taken preemtive action in the past.

IF you cant add anything Usfull to this thread why post here?

EDIT:  New subtopic.  For those of you who think this is soley a US/Israli effort to keep Iran away from proliferation.......How can you justify this opinion when the fact is that this has been a UNITED NATIONS goal for quite sometime!
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« Reply #61 on: October 25, 2004, 09:34:46 AM »
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but you know what i have an idea.
lets Email iran's Foreign Ministry and ask them what is their official stand regarding israel
what do you say? :)


that sounds good ..  do it i will try to guess what will be answer...

"We do not respect,declare israel as Country"


But if im wrong and he will tell you that he wants to annihilate israel from the Map, feel free to post it.




ok and now tell me how is it realted to fact, that Ir authority never ever claimed, that they will or want to attack some other country ?
And please note, that im speaking about Gov... people like president and not some clerics.

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« Reply #62 on: October 25, 2004, 09:50:07 AM »
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Wow way to have a discussion Lada,

About Iran having no history of attacking anyone is completly irrelevent.  

Radicaly Fundamentalist Islam = Hate and wanten destruction of the jewish state  


yes


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What kind of Govt is in power right now in Iran?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/middle_east/2000/iran_elections/iran_struggle_for_change/who_holds_power/default.stm

How are they related to people who you spoke about ?

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« Reply #63 on: October 25, 2004, 10:09:06 AM »
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Isreal was more then willing to wack Saddam during Gulf War 1. Satellite pass's over their missile fields showed their silo's open which brought the US in - only reason they showed restraint was the PAC-2's they rolled in in defense of the Al husseins. But i'm sure if they had chem and not conventional warheads we wouldn't be speculating in this fourm.

Wolfala


sorry ????

US stepin in a moment, when Iranian opened silo`s ?

Man .. you must be kidding....  Get some proper informations about the conflict.

Big hero of USA, Saddam Hussein, was officialy supported by USA. Mr. Rumsfeld was shaking hand with that brave fighter.

and Iran... Iran has been supported silently by USA. as well.

Its like joke that someone mentioned few pages back.... When 2 iraqi kill 1 iranain and get killed by other Iranian, USA lead 3:0


Did you ever ask your administration, why was both Iran and Iraq supported in war by USA?

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« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2004, 10:17:53 AM »
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sorry ????

US stepin in a moment, when Iranian opened silo`s ?



Isreal you dumb ****. Read the quote properly then spell check your flame mail.

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« Reply #65 on: October 25, 2004, 10:27:59 AM »
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Isreal you dumb ****. Read the quote properly then spell check your flame mail.

Wolfala


ahh you are right, i trough you speak about  Iq Ir war.

consider that post pointeless

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« Reply #66 on: October 25, 2004, 10:31:30 AM »
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About Iran having no history of attacking anyone is completly irrelevent.


Really? Care to elaborate ?

You sound like a broken record; you're so filled with hatred and bigotry that I wonder where did you get your attitude...

btw Israel is a coutry having nuclear weapons and it's also practising apartheid, big part of people living there aren't allowed to vote etc; Wouldn't you think they're a bigger threat to the middle-east than Iran?
What are you going to do about it?

Oh well; in few decades israel is an islamistic state; little by little the Arabic part of the inhabitants grows bigger and a Jewish state (hopefully) turns to a democracy where every citizen has a right to vote :)

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« Reply #67 on: October 25, 2004, 10:50:49 AM »
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« Reply #68 on: October 25, 2004, 11:40:52 AM »
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Really? Care to elaborate ?

You sound like a broken record; you're so filled with hatred and bigotry that I wonder where did you get your attitude...

btw Israel is a coutry having nuclear weapons and it's also practising apartheid, big part of people living there aren't allowed to vote etc; Wouldn't you think they're a bigger threat to the middle-east than Iran?
What are you going to do about it?

Oh well; in few decades israel is an islamistic state; little by little the Arabic part of the inhabitants grows bigger and a Jewish state (hopefully) turns to a democracy where every citizen has a right to vote :)


The jews have really pulled off a feat with this one. Surrounded and outnumbered 25 to 1 by people that either openly or clandestinely hate them(mostly openly)--people, btw, who practice apathied against the women in their own families--and yet they're the biggest threat to the middle east.

Here's a question, my disjointed, safely-distant, all knowing, all-seeing, unbiased, elightened fair-skinned friend... What exactly does it mean to threaten the Middle East, anyway? Are the Israelis, by practicing the policies they practice, at risk of turning the region into an uncivilized, inhumane, disorganized tinderbox of hatred, violence and intolerance? I always thought they were trying to secure the survival and advancement for their people. If it takes systematic raids on Iran every Ramadan to assure that Israel will remain out of harms way for another year, it's more than justified.

The Israelis have been a nuclear power for decades. Not once have they misused, or even used, for that matter, this power--even at a time when Saddam was randomly lobbing scuds into Tel Aviv. Personally, I would not want to be the one to authorize the same experiment with Iran.

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« Reply #69 on: October 25, 2004, 03:19:52 PM »
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uncivilized, inhumane, disorganized tinderbox of hatred, violence and intolerance


Oh I thought you were talking about Israel :)

btw using personal attacks kinda makes everything else you wrote worthless waste of webspace, try again but leave slanders away this time :)

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« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2004, 03:44:14 PM »
If the issue with Iran working to build nukes isnt resolved diplomatically I think Israel WILL launch a preemptive strike of some sort. Israel has a history of favoring the preemptive strike.

1967, the Six day war, Israel knows she is about to be attacked by multiple Arab countries including Egpyt and Syria, Israel launches a preemptive strike and secures the Sinai noodleula, Gaza Strip, West Bank and the Golan Heights in a mere 6 days.

1973, Yom Kippur War. Again, Israel knows she is about to be attacked but before a preemptive strike can be made the US gov't pressures Israel into NOT taking preemptive action. This (imo) leads to unnecessary casualties on both sides. With a preemptive strike the war would have been over in far less than the 30 or so days it did last.

1980's Saddam is working on nuclear weapons, Israel hits the reactor with F-16's.

If the diplomatic process fails, I think we can expect Israel to attack.
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« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2004, 03:52:55 PM »
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Radicaly Fundamentalist Islam = Hate and wanten destruction of the jewish state


This is in part due to the fact that both the Jews and the Arabs consider Jerusalem to be a Holy City for their respective religions. The Arabs consider it an affront to have the Jews in possesion of one of their Holy Cities. Much like bin Laden considers it an affront to have American troops permanently stationed in Saudi Arabia, home of the 2 holiest cities to Islam.

Also, ever since the time of Abraham the Jews and Arabs have conflicted with each other. This conflict has been ongoing for thousands of years now. It's not likely to stop anytime soon imo.
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« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2004, 04:06:21 PM »
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Oh I thought you were talking about Israel :)

btw using personal attacks kinda makes everything else you wrote worthless waste of webspace, try again but leave slanders away this time :)


Where did you see a personal attack, Staga? I think that you are a smug, amatuer armchair political theorist, nothing less, nothing more. Not a bad person by any stretch of the imagination, just a guy with some spare time and an itchy emoticon finger.

Being such, I doubt you're in any position to determine which posts are a waste of webspace and which are worthwhile. As I've said before, you represent a class of people that is in the enviable position of being able to criticize from afar without ever compromising your own situation. I have no disdain for you and I do not sink to the level of personal attacks because frankly, I don't care enough about your point of view to let it upset me for more than a moment or two. I simply stated what I believe in regards to you, as I do with most any topic. You can take it, or you can leave it.

As for Israel being whatever it is you think it is... I suggest you travel there, as a jew(yes, it changes things), and see it with your own eyes, at ground level. I've done it... If you have been there, and continue to believe what you believe, well then, I guess we can just amicably disagree on the topic.

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« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2004, 05:51:01 PM »
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Isreal you dumb ****. Read the quote properly then spell check your flame mail.

Wolfala


Lada's reading comprehension falls in between an autistic gopher and a concrete slab, edging more towards the concrete with each reply.

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« Reply #74 on: October 25, 2004, 05:57:15 PM »
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Oh I thought you were talking about Israel :)

btw using personal attacks kinda makes everything else you wrote worthless waste of webspace, try again but leave slanders away this time :)


It's not slander if it's true and an established fact.... Moreover, it's not slander if it's written. That's libel. However, it's not libel if it's true and an established fact.

Are you following this?

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