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Offline Lephturn

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« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2000, 03:11:00 PM »
Unless the other fellow is visibly warping around, your connection quality should not matter at all.  All you have to do is hit the picture on your FE.  The hit detection is done on your FE.  Shoot the picture of him and it hurts him, it's that simple.  A higher degree of lag will mean that you are seeing what he did with a longer delay, but that's all.  As long as the target is moving smoothly and you can hit him, you will get results.  Hit packets go out as TCP I believe, so they will be re-transmitted if required.  A bad connection will mean it may take longer for that damage to register and for you to see the results, but it will be transmitted.

If you are seeing hit sparkles and not seeing any results, there may be another problem.  When you see this be sure to film it if you can.  Then do some traceroutes and we'll try to troubleshoot the problem.  Doing things like disabling V-snych has caused problems like that in the past.



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« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2000, 05:57:00 PM »
I seem to set my convergence a bit further out than most.

My convergence settings:

Tiffy: 650 outer, 500 inner.  
20 mm hispanos seem kill anything pretty fast when you are close, even when you only have one set of guns hitting your target.  With, relatively, a bit of Jabo work this tour, and a lot of high angle deflection shooting, my hit % is about 11%.  

P-47: 650 and 550 for the outer quad, 450 and 350 for the inner quad.  
I often use the Jug for ground attack and fire the outer quad at long range, add the inners in mid range and inner only up close.  I try to do this be it air to air or air to ground.  The long straffing runs seem to go much better when you have the option of shooting from way out when things look good.

Spit IX: 20mm at 500, 50s at 400.
In tour six I flew the Spit IX almost exclusively.  My hit % that tour was 22.88%.

I think that long range convergence works well at all ranges.  Close convergence does not give you the option of shooting well at longer ranges.

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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2000, 06:02:00 PM »
P.S.
I use stock gunsights only, and think they work just fine.

Lephturn;
My theory on assists:
Cannons get you kills, MGs get you assists.
It sucks, but it's too often the truth.

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« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2000, 06:24:00 AM »
Eskimo,

While it's true cannons are more deadly, I've found a big difference in lethality depending on convergence.  I find setting all guns to 375 I am getting more kills and less assists than I did with my convergences spread out between 350 and 425.  Quite a big difference it seems... the snapshots seem to pay off now where they didn't before.  Just my impression.

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« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2000, 10:29:00 PM »
 
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I think that long range convergence works well at all ranges. Close convergence does not give you the option of shooting well at longer ranges.

Actually Eskimo, if you read some of the other threads by Andy and others, it is just the opposite.  A close convergence gives you the option of killing far out, but a far convergence will cause misses in close.

In general, due to cone of fire and bullet dispersion, a given setting is effective out to twice the convergence range.  I set my guns to 300, with the knowledge that I won't be needing to shoot past 600.  

Having a close convergence is a good psychological tool to teach you to hold your fire until you get nice and close.


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« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2000, 10:37:00 PM »
I'll try closer convergence and see how it works.

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« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2000, 04:37:00 PM »
Tried it,
Hated it.
650 and 500 seem to work much better for me for attacking armor with the Tiffy.  They still work well in air to air, and don't spray quite so wide when straffing Osties.  At 450 and 300, dust would puff up on both sides of Osties at the same time.

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« Reply #52 on: December 08, 2000, 05:02:00 PM »
Well no wonder.  I was talking about air-to-air.  For ground attack with cannon, I use 600 also.

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« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2000, 05:11:00 PM »
Saw fly in the canyons and find some walls nearly 90 degrees shoot at them pull some Gs it help me.