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Offline killnu

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« on: November 11, 2004, 07:59:41 PM »
i thought you would not be able to do that in AH2?  guess i was wrong.  or am i?
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2004, 08:02:25 PM »
Are you kidding me?

Since AH2 came ou thats all people do. Up down left right, pull back on stick as hard as posible to stall out and pray they dont auger.... Its shameless.

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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2004, 08:03:20 PM »
not only dont they auger?  they seem to end up following you as soon as you pass them with no loss of E at all?!  very frustrating.
every time it has happened to me, they end up 400 off my 6, and as fast if not faster than before, dont matter if im diving, pulling up,level flight, they right there on my 6 after their plane goes into convulsions.  would be amazing thing to see, real plane doing those kinda flop and twitches that fast...:mad:
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2004, 08:19:08 PM »
The death of ACM in AH. Welcome N00bs. :)

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2004, 08:22:29 PM »
ive seen "vets" do it :(
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2004, 08:47:36 PM »
The "vets" (which is a word I hate in here) do it because they know they can.

The noobs do it because thats all they know.

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2004, 09:39:34 PM »
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not only dont they auger?  they seem to end up following you as soon as you pass them with no loss of E at all?!  very frustrating.
every time it has happened to me, they end up 400 off my 6, and as fast if not faster than before, dont matter if im diving, pulling up,level flight, they right there on my 6 after their plane goes into convulsions.  would be amazing thing to see, real plane doing those kinda flop and twitches that fast...:mad:



 I was Played AHII for the two week trial coming back from a lay off from AH, and I was flopping all over the place in a low slow turn fights.  Just struggling to stay flying.  The FM has changed some or the trim on the planes have gotten to be more important than it used to be.  

 The torque on some of the planes were more than i was used to. Like the spit xiv.  when i got slow with I forgot to reset the trim and man what a handfull it was to turn.  

 I didn't think trim had that much affect of the flight of the plane as it should have on the stick, but thats jMHO.

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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2004, 09:53:49 PM »
Not to be confused with a nice barrel roll though.

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2004, 09:56:35 PM »
Am I missing something here?

If I'm in front of you and I manuver onto your tail, aren't I doing my job?

Stick Stirring?  I mean what exactly does that mean really?  Does that mean that the guy you were following snap-rolled and you couldn't follow it so now you whine?

Or does it mean that they barrel rolled and jerked out of it?  And you blew past?

I just don't get what it is that you want the guy to do... Just put on auto pilot so you can shoot him?

So far, from what I read on this board, I'm not supposed to boom 'n zoom, I'm not allowed to pull any moves if I'm your victim, I'm not allowed to vulch you if you're an idiot and can't figure out there are 35 red airplanes over your base.  I'm not supposed to fly high because then I'm an Alt Monkey, I'm not allowed to shoot at the front of your plane because then I'm an H.O dweeb... and so on.

You dudes really should take two steps back and look at what you're saying.  Because really what you're saying is that you don't like it when guys squirm out of your sights.  And you don't think anyone should be allowed to shoot you down.  At least thats what I'm reading.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2004, 10:27:57 PM »
Stick Stirring - invision a Large Mouth Bass  hooked on a line and the line is attached to your plane, the propeller is trying to reel in the fish yet he flops left, right, up, down and can not make up his mind which direction he wants to go! ( porpoising also comes to mind here!)

not to be confused with snap rolls, lag rolls, barrel rolls, and othe maneuvers like the scissors maneuver in which all are flown in smooth fluid motion, regardless if fast or slow.........
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2004, 10:34:21 PM »
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not to be confused with snap rolls, lag rolls, barrel rolls, and othe maneuvers like the scissors maneuver in which all are flown in smooth fluid motion, regardless if fast or slow.........
Might I add with forethought to reverse the situation.
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2004, 10:36:08 PM »
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Might I add with forethought to reverse the situation.
 


ok daddaog,
I just woke up so this went right over my head, LOL! it is not registering in the noodle yet ;)
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2004, 10:37:13 PM »
LOL
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2004, 10:49:18 PM »
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Stick Stirring?  I mean what exactly does that mean really?  


Randomly and rabidly jerking your stick about in every direction in an uncontrolled manor. not only does it stall you but it produces lag and warps. not to be confused with lagitamate jinking.

the bigest issue I have with stick stiring is the warp it produces. its also not a lagitimate manuver. real wwII pilots didn't stick stir. they kicked their ruders they manuvered including jinking but they didn't stick stir (woulda been suicide).

I can live with Alt monkey If I had the patiants Ide climb to 30k to. i can live with HO dweebs. If I could aim that well Ide do it to. I despise stick stirers and wish they would bring back locking the controlls when it's done.
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2004, 11:11:46 PM »
It does happen at times when one is being chased by 4+ bandits, although not intentionally he goes to maneuver out of the way from 1 bandit to find he is flyinto another bandits fire and so on and so forth that he actually ends up doing a lil stick stirring,  then one of the 4 if not all say hey nice stick stirring , or say you stick stirring dweeb or something of such, neglecting the fact that the 4 chasing the 1 looked more dweebish.............
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