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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #375 on: November 18, 2004, 08:30:15 PM »
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I know, which is why I find it amazing (well, not really) that there are Americans here that would support genocide.


Which posts?  Can you point them out? I really havent been following this thread much after everyobe stated their positions for the 4th time...

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« Reply #376 on: November 18, 2004, 08:31:41 PM »
Some people need to go to a school that teaches the ability to ignore.

I call that, pirate school.

At pirate school, anyone that says anything to you gets stabbed in the eyeball. No more effeminate crying over what someone says. Just deal with it like a pirate, stab your problem(s) away.

After you learn this awesome technique, you move on to learning how to commandeer your own ship. This course is relatively easy and involves much of the aforementioned stabbing.

Now, for the monkeys - they are your best friend. They do everything, and they have opposable thumbs - so they are the perfect right hand man.

Any questions about how great it is to be a pirate?
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« Reply #377 on: November 18, 2004, 08:32:41 PM »
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I know, which is why I find it amazing (well, not really) that there are Americans here that would support genocide.

 Like Who ?

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« Reply #378 on: November 18, 2004, 08:32:59 PM »
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Hitler had a system to determine guilt or innocence too, and hundreds were released! Go America! Perhaps you should relocate them to the east? The final solution to terrorism!


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« Reply #379 on: November 18, 2004, 08:33:51 PM »
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Hitler had a system to determine guilt or innocence too, and hundreds were released! Go America! Perhaps you should relocate them to the east? The final solution to terrorism!

 This, is Bull ****

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« Reply #380 on: November 18, 2004, 08:59:09 PM »
I dont think I saw a single post in 9 pages where ANYONE supported genocide.

I fear GS has finally gone off the deep end :(
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« Reply #381 on: November 18, 2004, 09:00:33 PM »
Hmmmm

Well anyway, so far no link has been established between Sadam and terrorist organisations, or him and 9/11, so lets not try justifying anything on that basis hmmm.

As far as the UN goes, the US administration had decided they weren't seriously going to try and involve the UN anyway, got persuaded by other countries to give the UN a go, but, well, is it a big surprise that given their lack of enthusiasm the US case didn't get UN backing hmm?

But anyway, back to the issue at hand.

First...umm, formal hostilities ended way back, so 'war' is actually not the right term (Someone who is well informed put me right if I'm wrong!). But that aside, the debate on the 'status' of the 'terrorist' side in terms of GC is fairly laughable. The 'hostile' people that have been fighting in Iraq can not just be labled 'terrorists', there look to be many groups as well as I am sure people who are not organsied in any noticable way. External (non Iraqi) Jihad types, Iraqi jihad types, Iraqi's who are fighting what they see as an invading army, and on that count, if you consider it from thier (probably fairly uninformed point of view, or just a very strong nationalist/defend my country mindset), which I would think many on these boards would understand if the situation was put into context of an invasion (however right or wrong) of their own country, and probably Iraqi's who are not going to move out of their homes just cos someone, anyone tells them to, and are going to shoot the first person of any type that comes at them.

Both of the last two types would not be recognised by the current rules of war as genuine combatants, but from a moral stand are very much in the 'right' to defend their country/homes even against an 'imposed' government. How ca you tell these latter 'Home defenders' from Jihaders or terrorists....you can't. My point....don't just lump all hostiles into one easy to describe and hate group called 'terrorists'.

Despite all of the above, in a combat zone where there has been a known pattern of the enemy using 'dirty tricks' (and when it comes to streetfighting you've got to ba a little dipsy in the head to not use any tactic that works), shooting first and asking questions a looong way second is only common sense. It may not be nice, or sporting, or moral, or following strict ROE, or the normal rules of war, but self preservation overides, thankfully all of the above. The marine's true crime....being filmed doing it. That modern wars arenot so tightly bound with the media is a whole other debate, and not a pretty one.

Anyway, there is my two pence worth for now, oh, and please stop the 'tards thing, it just shows that the person using has no respect for others, and if you really have no respect for others, well, lets not go there shall we!

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« Reply #382 on: November 19, 2004, 12:10:03 AM »
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Well anyway, so far no link has been established between Sadam and terrorist organisations, or him and 9/11, so lets not try justifying anything on that basis hmmm.


That's not true. There were at least 2 terrorist training camps in Iraq. One was in the northern part iirc (if Iam mistaken I am 100% sure *someone*will step in heh), and the second one was just outside Baghdad.

Also it's well documented that SH paid the families of suicide bombers 25,000 dollars. Baghdad Bob bragged about it on Iraqi televsion. It's also being documented on how SH gave shelter and medical aid to terrorists.

As far as Al-Qeada goes, no, there arent any documented links.

Dunno about you, but those sure seem like links to terrorism to me :)
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« Reply #383 on: November 19, 2004, 12:19:27 AM »
Awesome, a new ameristalker shade account!

Heya Tali, I'm sure we will have fun, as always..  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #384 on: November 19, 2004, 12:43:30 AM »


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« Reply #385 on: November 19, 2004, 01:13:50 AM »
Gschitz.... die.
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« Reply #386 on: November 19, 2004, 02:03:35 AM »
you guys must have really torqued old crusty gshmoltz off hehe

gshmoltz appears to have popped a systems critical O-Ring and is belching dark blue foul obnoxious gas as he wings over for the face plant lol

good work!

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« Reply #387 on: November 19, 2004, 02:16:44 AM »
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What do I have to be sorry for Staga? Have I called people murderous nazis? Have I insulted anyone?


Not gonna answer Staga?


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GS.....where is your outrage for all the violations of the GC by the insurgents? Where is your outrage for the innocent civilians that were murdered in Falujah by the insurgents? Why all the outrage over a video tape that most likely doesnt tell the entire story?


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What will you do GS if the Marines investigating this incident decide the shooting was justified? Will you just disappear from this thread with no comment like you do in all other threads that dont pan out for you? Or will you apologize for insults thrown?



What about you GS? You gonna answer any of that?
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« Reply #388 on: November 19, 2004, 04:11:41 AM »
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GS in America everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.


You were wrong in this; proofs are imprisoned in Guantanamo.
Are you man enough to admit you were wrong and that everyone is NOT innocent until proven quilty?

I'm not saying all those people are innocent but US has been keeping them locked in for over two years without court hearings.
That's not how a civilized country acts; that's how "Banana Republics", Communists and Military Governments treat their prisoners.

"innocent until proven guilty" my ass.

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« Reply #389 on: November 19, 2004, 07:36:00 AM »
Prisoners at Guantanamo Bay are war prisoners from Afghanistan. There are exceptions to this as stated in this article.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jan2003/guan-j03.shtml

I havent had time to read all of it. There is no guilt or innocence for prisoners of war. Those that were jailed wrongly need to be released asap.
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