Author Topic: Aces High and Warbirds fill Air Warrior void? (Read 2019 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #30 on:** November 22, 2004, 08:43:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizard3
Posting this in here and the replies made are a serious breach of respect for the people that own/work for this game. This is Oclub material.

That said, I think allot of you guys are comparing this with nostalgia which isn't fair. AW was great being the first MMOFS, but was in no way comparable to the software that is AH. The company and people that were AW by and large sucked.(not knockin the community)

New maps every 2 years or so? Fix a flight model by goofing it worse? (P-47 for example). Big invisible armored sheilds out in front of your airplane? New aircraft? HA!

I dissagree. I have a tremendous amount of respect for the folks that run this show just for the simple fact they allow discussion of other games here. UNLIKE AW where simply discussing other games could get you in trouble. In fact I beleive it was in their TOS not to discuss other games.

HTC shows real class in not following that lame practice.

Loved AW, hated the way they ran it alot of times.

But even if it were to come back I doubt I'd return to it. If for no other reason then the way HTC staff runs this show.
even if there are times I dont agree with it.
I respect it.

RookieCAF · « **Reply #31 on:** November 22, 2004, 08:50:49 PM »

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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
You got a third here.

That gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. IMHO Mage did nothing but plunge the game into even more suckitude than it was..

Oops, I better shut up...

KurtVW · « **Reply #32 on:** November 22, 2004, 09:35:43 PM »

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Originally posted by FT_Animal
Ya BUT, AW was NEVER about amazing graphics, so that point is moot.

If thats what you thought my point was, you need to learn to read more carefully.

Mayhem · « **Reply #33 on:** November 22, 2004, 09:36:25 PM »

I think the biggest reason people want AW or would Like to see it back was the atmosphere and community. And to be honest there is no patch for that, specially the community part. nothing HTC can do about the fact that the Comunity is degrading to the level of Counter Strike. I like the game. even with the existing interface and web sites and message boards it does not have the atmosphere that aw had but Game wise AH2 is 10 times better then any of the air warriors could ever dream to be specially since aw was running code that went back to 87. the commuinty is just shot, sigh of the times as more kids are getting on the internet with no respect for others. Most people feel becuase no one knows who they are and where they are they can do what ever they want without worrying bout some one droping by and kicking they're arse.

FT_Animal · « **Reply #34 on:** November 22, 2004, 09:40:24 PM »

Well, depends on what level you delt with Mage. Maybe you didn't KNOW him.

Mage just didn't have much tolerance for constant aimless sniveling from the same people all the time. He also didn't MAKE the policies for the company, he enforced them.

Besides, he wasn't alone, as I mentioned. Most people who KNOW Mage, respect him.

Players who dished him out crap, got crap back. He was a bit of a hardliner though.

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Originally posted by Lizard3
I'll second that with added emphasis.

RookieCAF · « **Reply #35 on:** November 22, 2004, 09:45:49 PM »

He lost me when he dicked around with arena settings to favor his friends. Nuff said. He is no great loss from the community.

FT_Animal · « **Reply #36 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:15:33 PM »

If AH had the mix of the fun eliment of AW to go with their unbelievable dedication to upgrades and patches, this game would be totally unbeatable.

Quite frankly, *IMO* there is a LOT more snively whinning in AH, more whinning means less fun for you and others.

No sim I know can hold any stick to HTC production of a sim. Relentless working for perfection is the HTC/AH trade mark.

All I am saying is, and someone said before me several times, AH is superior in updates and graphics to AW. leeps and bounds.

But IMO AH hasn't reached the level of fun as AW. Probably because it's more techincally based. But it's evolving and in time, AH will surpase anything AW was, fun wise.

The two games differ in that way. One has more updates and constantly evolving graphics. AW graphics basically blew, because they didn't keep up with the times, but it was more fun,..... to *me*.

No one here is knocking HTC or AH. I see that as some people in the over-protective mode. That's a good thing, believe it or not. Over-protectivness means attachment, contentment, and dedication.

OTOH there is no, and will be no competition here, because Aw is dead and gone for ever.

I think what people are saying is, a few more steps towards fun and community and this game will become unstoppable. Even to more
superior graphics like "Lock-on" and "IL2". But both them games, as games,... blow. A good example of graphics ain't everything.

>serious breach of respect for the people that
>own/work for this game.

Sorry, but to be honest, that is over-protective mode working over time and that statement is pure nonsense. If it were true we wouldn't be here at all.

~A

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Originally posted by Lizard3
Posting this in here and the replies made are a serious breach of respect for the people that own/work for this game. This is Oclub material.

That said, I think allot of you guys are comparing this with nostalgia which isn't fair. AW was great being the first MMOFS, but was in no way comparable to the software that is AH. The company and people that were AW by and large sucked.(not knockin the community)

New maps every 2 years or so? Fix a flight model by goofing it worse? (P-47 for example). Big invisible armored sheilds out in front of your airplane? New aircraft? HA!

Mayhem · « **Reply #37 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:16:04 PM »

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Originally posted by KurtVW
If thats what you thought my point was, you need to learn to read more carefully.

That happened to AW and in AW wasn't mages fualt or was even in his power. So the blame lies further up the food chain from mage.

Mayhem · « **Reply #38 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:19:18 PM »

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Originally posted by RookieCAF
I'm sorry, Mage was an A-hole.

I'm sure he has a high opion of you to. I know I do now.

FT_Animal · « **Reply #39 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:21:02 PM »

BZZZZZZT!!! Wrong!

can you say "shallow"?

That's how many players in that community interpreted to be because the settings didn't fall within *their* OWN liking.

Kinda like the stupid CZ Consperocy crapola. You must have been part of that crowd. I was BZ and never fell for the CZ Consperocy junk.

You will NEVER please everyone in producing games. HTC has the same problems. much like any other game maker.

Mage didn't please you, that's nothing shocking or new.

~A

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Originally posted by RookieCAF
He lost me when he dicked around with arena settings to favor his friends. Nuff said. He is no great loss from the community.

FT_Animal · « **Reply #40 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:25:28 PM »

>nothing HTC can do about the fact that the
>Comunity is degrading to the level of Counter
> Strike.

That is sorta true. IMO of course.

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Originally posted by Mayhem
I think the biggest reason people want AW or would Like to see it back was the atmosphere and community. And to be honest there is no patch for that, specially the community part. nothing HTC can do about the fact that the Comunity is degrading to the level of Counter Strike. I like the game. even with the existing interface and web sites and message boards it does not have the atmosphere that aw had but Game wise AH2 is 10 times better then any of the air warriors could ever dream to be specially since aw was running code that went back to 87. the commuinty is just shot, sigh of the times as more kids are getting on the internet with no respect for others. Most people feel becuase no one knows who they are and where they are they can do what ever they want without worrying bout some one droping by and kicking they're arse.

RookieCAF · « **Reply #41 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:54:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Mayhem
I'm sure he has a high opion of you to. I know I do now.

Like I care what anyone who wears a Damned Tag in their handle thinks about me

Spell Check Is Your Friend.

RookieCAF · « **Reply #42 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:56:52 PM »

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Originally posted by FT_Animal
BZZZZZZT!!! Wrong!

*snip mage shaft polishing*

Mage didn't please you, that's nothing shocking or new.

~A

Time to stop swinging from his short hairs I think.

I bet you started on AOL didn't you?

FT_Animal · « **Reply #43 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:59:02 PM »

Vise-versa too.

;-)

~A

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Originally posted by RookieCAF
Like I care what anyone who wears a Damned Tag in their handle thinks about me

Spell Check Is Your Friend.

Mayhem · « **Reply #44 on:** November 22, 2004, 10:59:39 PM »

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Originally posted by RookieCAF
Like I care what anyone who wears a Damned Tag in their handle thinks about me

Spell Check Is Your Friend.

Looks like you don't really care what any one thinks about you and you wounder what happened to aw and why the AH community isn't what it should be. This explains your problem with Mage to. You know HL2 Comes with CS source Might want to pick it up.