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« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2004, 11:06:04 PM »
Did I mention anything about the AH Community? I don't think so. Its a bit too PC and AOL-ish, but the game has potential. Technically its leagues ahead of the old stuff, but its still the same game. Only with alot more dweebs.:(

I abhor Counterstrike, I bet you like it.

You have no idea what my problem with Mage is/was so you may as well shut it because I'm not sharing it with you. Its dead and buried because the game nor the community will be back, regardless of your martyr complex.

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« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2004, 11:07:41 PM »
BZZZZZT! Wrong assumption again.

I started before AOL, but quit because my 486 wouldn't handle it, and i wasn't about to afford that per hour crap. it was short lived.

It's when I got my new P120 and that awsome Windows 3.1 that really charged me up. Then AW went to AOL.

But Mage caught blame for many things that were NOT his doing. Obviously you didn't know him well at all, nor the structure of command there back then in Kesmai. Obviously you carry resentment for something you didn't understand.

Maybe I should just stay clear of your post, you're starting to irritate me. The unknowing have that effect on me.

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Time to stop swinging from his short hairs I think.

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« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2004, 11:11:16 PM »


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Did I mention anything about the AH Community? I don't think so. Its a bit too PC and AOL-ish, but the game has potential. Technically its leagues ahead of the old stuff, but its still the same game. Only with alot more dweebs.:(

I abhor Counterstrike, I bet you like it.

You have no idea what my problem with Mage is/was so you may as well shut it because I'm not sharing it with you. Its dead and buried because the game nor the community will be back, regardless of your martyr complex.

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« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2004, 11:14:41 PM »
Don't assume what I do and don't know. Just because I don't like Your Nancy Boy doesn't mean I don't share the same sentiment for others at Kesmai / Gamestorm.

Don't get irritated, try some Gold Bond in your shorts or something ;) :rofl

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« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2004, 11:17:57 PM »
AW is nothing but a memory and will always be.  The game had some really good ideas about allowing as much difficulty/realism as you wanted to keep the game fun.  

I will keep with me until I get alzheimers jumping into a B17 with squad mates (and anyone else around willing) to gun a bombing raid or a 'death star' run!  Going on jabo runs that were always suicide, but not really minding.  Taking a field in 5 min with a coordinated strike!  Being 5:1 outnumbered, but still fighting on and sometimes surviving!  Part of that fun was the sqad, which was much more organized than most I see today.  Of course flying with SnowMan, Tequila Chaser, Rusty Razor, Drano, Wrongway, Kitty, and TinMan helped.  Also, there was much more cooperation between squads too.

Try telling kids these days that sort of thing and they will never believe you!!  Personally, I see hope for AH.  But then, my eyesight is not as good as it used to be.


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« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2004, 11:38:52 PM »
AW was a community that built itself up over time, and the game tried to keep up.

AH has the game, and the community is building itself up.

That does not mean that the AH community isn't good.  There are some fantastic people here.  The AW crowd just grew together, through the garbage, through the 256 color, through the newness of multiplayer and into the mass market.  There is a bond that formed, nothing personal to anyone who didn't form with it, in 8 or 10 years this AH community will be loud and strong and pining the old days before virtual reality games put you really into the seat and made you throw up with the turbulence because you ate that last burrito before squad night.

AW was never about the graphics, and was never about the realism.  The fact that so many people attack anyone who brings up AW with rants of "game sucked" "flew on rails" really missed the point of what the game means to some people.  That's not a bad thing, but it is what it is.  It is not unlike 2 mid 40s guys walking into a coffee shop, after not seeing each other for a couple of years, and just looking at each other, and saying something like "bannana soup" and both start rolling on the floor laughing.  No one is going to think that was funny, unless they were there.  Try and explain it, and the just won't get it.  It's like my wife not understanding that I really really do like the 10 year old Lazy Boy, and Yes, I know the new one has a cup holder, but the old one just....well....I don't know, It just fit's my butt or something.  The new is great, but sometimes you want familiarity, you want memories, and you want the kinship that only time, not clever graphics, can build.

This game has tools and features we only drooled thinking about in AW.  Unfortunately, experiencing the meager turnouts in Rangoon scenario just reminds me that the really good stuff took effort and imagination.  That is lacking here, simply because the crowd didn't "grow up" with all the goodies.  Our events and immersion came from the comraderie of a full blown mission, the chatter, preperation, effort, planning, map building and all the other things the game couldn't provide.  

Now, the old school and new kids really need to take the tools that are in front of us, and make the game what we want.  We tried to tell AW that we didn't need gimicks, we needed unbugged maps, that's all, nothing really more.  There are a great many who think the Game designers can build the community, but they can't, and frankly, I don't want them to, it wouldn't be ours.

If there was one single thing I would ask for, it would be the lockable briefing room.  And that really isn't a formal request, because frankly, with all the tools at our disposal, there are ways to work around that.  But once the old gang from AW AND AH get together and really start ramping up the reason we fly to begin with, the game will change.

I'm back in scenario mode, MA is just practice for events as far as I'm concerned.  But they won't be nearly as much fun if as many people as possible don't participate.  And, a few years from now, as the new kids stream into AH9.5, we all will beat them into oblivion for coming in to "OUR" game and daring to critique what they don't know anything about.
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« Reply #51 on: November 22, 2004, 11:57:13 PM »
Great post ROC. Really ;-)

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AW was a community that built itself up over time, and the game tried to keep up.

AH has the game, and the community is building itself up.

That does not mean that the AH community isn't good.  There are some fantastic people here.  The AW crowd just grew together, through the garbage, through the 256 color, through the newness of multiplayer and into the mass market.  There is a bond that formed, nothing personal to anyone who didn't form with it, in 8 or 10 years this AH community will be loud and strong and pining the old days before virtual reality games put you really into the seat and made you throw up with the turbulence because you ate that last burrito before squad night.

AW was never about the graphics, and was never about the realism.  The fact that so many people attack anyone who brings up AW with rants of "game sucked" "flew on rails" really missed the point of what the game means to some people.  That's not a bad thing, but it is what it is.  It is not unlike 2 mid 40s guys walking into a coffee shop, after not seeing each other for a couple of years, and just looking at each other, and saying something like "bannana soup" and both start rolling on the floor laughing.  No one is going to think that was funny, unless they were there.  Try and explain it, and the just won't get it.  It's like my wife not understanding that I really really do like the 10 year old Lazy Boy, and Yes, I know the new one has a cup holder, but the old one just....well....I don't know, It just fit's my butt or something.  The new is great, but sometimes you want familiarity, you want memories, and you want the kinship that only time, not clever graphics, can build.

This game has tools and features we only drooled thinking about in AW.  Unfortunately, experiencing the meager turnouts in Rangoon scenario just reminds me that the really good stuff took effort and imagination.  That is lacking here, simply because the crowd didn't "grow up" with all the goodies.  Our events and immersion came from the comraderie of a full blown mission, the chatter, preperation, effort, planning, map building and all the other things the game couldn't provide.  

Now, the old school and new kids really need to take the tools that are in front of us, and make the game what we want.  We tried to tell AW that we didn't need gimicks, we needed unbugged maps, that's all, nothing really more.  There are a great many who think the Game designers can build the community, but they can't, and frankly, I don't want them to, it wouldn't be ours.

If there was one single thing I would ask for, it would be the lockable briefing room.  And that really isn't a formal request, because frankly, with all the tools at our disposal, there are ways to work around that.  But once the old gang from AW AND AH get together and really start ramping up the reason we fly to begin with, the game will change.

I'm back in scenario mode, MA is just practice for events as far as I'm concerned.  But they won't be nearly as much fun if as many people as possible don't participate.  And, a few years from now, as the new kids stream into AH9.5, we all will beat them into oblivion for coming in to "OUR" game and daring to critique what they don't know anything about.

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« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2004, 12:01:39 AM »
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That happened to AW and in AW wasn't mages fualt or was even in his power.  So the blame lies further up the food chain from mage.


Mayhem,
I have no idea why you quoted me in this post... I was addressing animal and my post had NOTHING to do with mage.

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« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2004, 12:07:23 AM »
I'm only irritated in a way I can't believe I am still reading your post. Worse yet, I am replying to them,.......My bad, shame on me,..... bad Animal,... bad bad Animal ;-)




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Don't assume what I do and don't know. Just because I don't like Your Nancy Boy doesn't mean I don't share the same sentiment for others at Kesmai / Gamestorm.

Don't get irritated, try some Gold Bond in your shorts or something ;) :rofl

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« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2004, 12:17:02 AM »
I got you're point in your post. I was making a comment that graphics, while wished to be better, was never what made the game. No offense intended. ;-)

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Mayhem,
I have no idea why you quoted me in this post... I was addressing animal and my post had NOTHING to do with mage.

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« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2004, 12:28:01 AM »
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Mayhem,
I have no idea why you quoted me in this post... I was addressing animal and my post had NOTHING to do with mage.


Sorry kurt I probably Hit the wrong link on the wrong post . That wasn't even suppose to have a quote in it.
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« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2004, 08:48:34 AM »
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I'm only irritated in a way I can't believe I am still reading your post. Worse yet, I am replying to them,.......My bad, shame on me,..... bad Animal,... bad bad Animal ;-)


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« Reply #57 on: November 23, 2004, 11:09:13 AM »


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« Reply #58 on: November 23, 2004, 12:39:04 PM »
Who could not love this? :D


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« Reply #59 on: November 23, 2004, 01:21:57 PM »
lol ;)   7.5 G's and no black out?   You RR/halftime duhweeb!