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Offline Brisco

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Aces High and Warbirds fill Air Warrior void?
« on: November 21, 2004, 08:50:06 PM »
You might call me a connoisseur of defunct online games.

I've noticed that old Gamestorm games like Legends of Kesmai and Silent Death Online still have hundreds of followers clamoring for their games to come back today yet, I haven't seen any groups or websites shouting out (at least in recent years) for Air Warrior's return.

(Although I am not a flight sim player, I do know the dilemma involving EA and I familiar with the origins of AH, AW and WB)

Is this to say that Aces High and Warbirds have since filled the void for Air Warrior players?  Would it be redundant and unneeded if Air Warrior had the possibility of coming back?

Appreciate your feedback.

Thanks!

Offline Elfie

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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2004, 09:00:51 PM »
The fun factor in AirWarrior was much higher than it is in Aces High imo. I would give AirWarrior another try if it ever came back.
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Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2004, 09:15:50 PM »
I too liked AW far more than AH.


I think you don't see too many people askng for the return of AW because...well...we know that it just isn't going to happen.


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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2004, 09:24:32 PM »
AW doesn't even hold a candle to AH in which is a better game.  The difference is how people played the game in AW vs how they do now in AH.

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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2004, 09:48:23 PM »
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The difference is how people played the game in AW vs how they do now in AH.


Exactly why the fun factor was much higher imo.
Corkyjr on country jumping:
In the end you should be thankful for those players like us who switch to try and help keep things even because our willingness to do so, helps a more selfish, I want it my way player, get to fly his latewar uber ride.

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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2004, 01:37:16 AM »
Would head back to AW in a New York minute if it came back.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2004, 01:53:15 AM »
IF AW came back with a new Graphics Engine and Flight modem that could compete with AH2 and WBIII But kept the general feel and interface. I'de jump. I think It's all about the Name and The Community. It had a certian feeling I Haven't felt since Gamestorm Died. Even AWMV didn't feel right and it was AWIII on EA. No maor changes where made to it. I think If HTC made some minor changes to the AH2 interface like scores people you last shot and people you last shot. chat like in the OC. Uncapturable fields with some Nutral Fields = no more ending the war. and reneamed the game "Air Warrior IV or Air Warrior:Aces High" threw in a PAC and a ETO Areana it would probably do the trick. But I doubt HTC would ever do it. It would be like a slap in the face to Hitech and every one that worked on it to take the AW name. If AW came back without a major overhual it would fail in about a month or two.

IMHO unless some one is serously going to bring back AW it's a mute point. leave the dead in the grave.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2004, 05:09:44 AM »
AH (at least) has continued to develop in a direction that AW would have wished to go.............

Whilst differences are definable and their ramifications obvious the broad spread of development into better graphics, more rides, better terrains is one that can be seen as a continual development in online flight combat sims thru the 90's into the 00's.

Some of the similarities are anachronistic them selves..........

We still drop 1 batch of drunks to capture..............

The war is still (mainly) airfield agin airfield.................

Strat models are still very similar (micro and macro)........................


Strangely development advances to one side the key differences related to how folk communicate and inter relate.


AH celebrates the winner, AW shamed the loser.

AW ready rooms and mission briefing rooms were more suited to  private squad environments they became chat rooms infact (the door could be locked).

Score, perks and ranking seems to count for more in the AH community. (probably because the AW score system always seemed broke and folk liked it that way)

(If we can stand a gross generalisation)I believe the average level of maturity of the average AH player is lower than was found in AW. But I believe this is not a game function.........its simply a result of  growing access to the genre...... it would be the same for AW if it were here now.
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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2004, 08:18:31 AM »
I seriously prefer the flight model in AH than I ever did in AW - including Full Realism.  In AW, the planes flew "on rails."  Here, in AH, I get more of the sensation of lift, drag, etc.  And, the graphics in AH (open beta) definitely were a step up from AW at the time.

Tilt has it right.  If AW came back today, the game would NOT have the same community that it once did many years ago.

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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2004, 08:39:37 AM »
For me Aces High filled the void AW created LONG before AW actually expired.

 I also have to say I find it a bit amusing to see some say that AW was more fun when I find the current AH "game" and online community a literal clone of AW (in it's last days from 1997 on up).

Nostalgia must come with rose colored glasses  for some...  :)

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2004, 08:40:30 AM »
Would LOVE to see a Euro and Pac arena in AH, theres enough people playing AH for it.:)
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2004, 10:54:03 AM »
AW3
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What is it good for...
Absolutely nothing....

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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2004, 11:27:41 AM »
AW was a lot more fun... period.

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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2004, 11:31:12 AM »
AH is indisputably better software.

AW was indescribaly better in every other way.

I'd like to see AW back.

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2004, 11:47:12 AM »
Which AW are we talking about? RR was more fun than FR (just because of the numbers involved IMHO) AW AOL was probably at its prime and the most fun... AW EA was a mixture of gang-bangs and 40K P38J hunt between VMPR and NYLON.  Anyone remember the gosh awful Large ETO maps??? It retired about half the user base... Maps and "action" have a lot to do with a game.  Also I know most won’t admit it but being a BZ sucked near the end as both the CZ and AZ were allergic to fighting each other... (certainly debatable but...)

Honestly latter years of AW game play was just as bad as in AH currently.  The main difference was that they were smaller hordes because of a smaller user base.  You had a reasonably better chance of getting a good fight in before being jumped by 10 guys...
In addition a noob had no real chance against the hard core vets that dominated the latter years.  One of the biggest problems we all used to lament about was the lack of fresh blood-from a user base point of view.