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« Reply #150 on: December 03, 2004, 06:34:06 PM »
okie dokie.... personaly... I lean toward letting the parents decide on life support or not.

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« Reply #151 on: December 03, 2004, 08:52:02 PM »
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You seriously cannot tell the difference between your two examples?


The difference between killing a patient by withholding food and water and killing a patient at their request by an overdose of anesthetic ?

Yeah, I can tell the difference. The first is acceptable right now and the second is not.

One other difference is that one is more humane than the other. Guess which one?
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« Reply #152 on: December 03, 2004, 08:53:21 PM »
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No one is withholding food or water....the patient would eat if not ill....natural death is prefferable in our society rather than a Kavorkian style society where we become the judge over who lives and who dies.


It's the patient who decides, or the patient's family depending on the circumstances. At least that's how I would want it.

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Death is innevitable. When I die, I have instructions to my family for no artificial means of life support...I will die naturally.

You probably disagree....which is you're right.


Fair enough. Of course the problem is because of imposition of the moral and religious beliefs of others, neither I nor my family could carry out a humane euthanasia in the event that became necessary. But life’s not fair, so who says death has to be.

Just in case you don’t already have these, make sure you have a living will AND advances directive that describes your wishes regarding advance life support.
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« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2004, 08:56:56 AM »

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« Reply #154 on: December 13, 2004, 09:06:20 AM »
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« Reply #155 on: December 13, 2004, 11:54:55 AM »
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How so would you have killed this child?

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=28372


I see that definition of "terminally ill" escapes you...

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« Reply #156 on: December 13, 2004, 12:38:56 PM »
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How so would you have killed this child?

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=28372


Ya know in a world where some people abort perfectly healthy babies by the thousands every year.

And then you see something like this and it really makes you thankfull.
These two parents are some of the bravest heroic people i have ever seen to them.

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« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2004, 02:50:45 PM »
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Is english your first language?  

You might get more replies if people could figure out what the hell you are talking about.
:lol :rofl

So, Urchin, tell us what you really feel

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« Reply #158 on: December 13, 2004, 02:57:55 PM »
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Sad day indeed that any would consider the euthanization of any human being.


Kinda like shooting an injured Iraqi teenager that is too far gone to be saved..grow up you wussies....:rolleyes:

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« Reply #159 on: December 13, 2004, 03:08:35 PM »
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What is needed is common freaking sence which is the least common of the sences I ever see used


...well, don't go looking for common sense here, you freaking neo-con liberal....:D

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« Reply #160 on: December 14, 2004, 08:37:56 AM »
red bottom.... nope... not much like one teenager from one sides army shooting another teenager from the oppossing side.

so do they use a tool to check if the heads are square enough or is it just a judgement call?

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« Reply #161 on: March 28, 2005, 02:57:04 AM »
GScholz, yes it is happening to Terri, and look at how much press, candlelight vigils, other demonstrations, and court proceedings the issue causes.

They having any of that in the Nederlands?

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« Reply #162 on: March 28, 2005, 04:51:56 AM »
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I see nothing wrong with this. As a matter of fact, I would find it 'barbaric' to think of it otherwise. (to use your own words)



Baaaad Baaad christian you are :D

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« Reply #163 on: March 28, 2005, 05:20:11 AM »
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These two parents are some of the bravest heroic people i have ever seen to them.


They effectively condemned thier child to a lifelong misery and suffering.

Already 14 painful operations with no option to live a normal life, ever. Worst part is that her brain is normal so she will suffer just like any other person would with this horrible defect.

She'll be mocked and avoided at school. Adults will stare, other kids will tease her. She'll most likely never end up in a romantic relationship. Her life will be filled with shame and misery, cast out from society. Most people with defects such as that never leave thier homes when they become adults. The pressure of the outside world gets too hard on them.

Many commit suicide later (if they're lucky enough to have ability to do so.)

If my child would be diagnosed with something like that during pregnancy, I'd want to abort it for sure. No question about it.

If the baby grows old enough to be born, it's a horrific tragedy to all parties, mostly to the child itself.