The Essential Bogeyman

[rpm]

laz, your trolls are getting weak. No comment on the articles or just no way to defend them? C'mon...gimme some swift boat vets or something.

[TheDudeDVant]

Hello mrlars..  thanks for your post.. 8)

[lazs2]

rpm... what do you want me to say?  I mean NBC?  one news source that says that we handed over the money to the iraqi government...   It's their money...  we didn't steal it.   Gotta wait and see how it plays out before I get too excited by "Bush screws it all up again... details at 11"

lazs

[rpm]

So who do you want for a source? Lemme guess...Faux?

[lazs2]

rpm... think about it man... you are about the most gullible guy on this board,,, you believed blather and moore and a bunch of other "news" sources with agendas that matched yours...  your track rec ord is terrible.

you allways jump in with both feet... lets just give it a little time shall we?.

lazs

[rpm]

You look so cute in your little Jr. Stalker pj's. Laz, think about it man. I'm sure NBC liberals just made up this whole scandal to boost ratings. Of course if CNN reported it, you would be crying that they just made it up, liberal bastages. ABC..well they are just a bunch of liberals  that let some Canadian rant on the air...

We all know Faux and Rush Limbaugh are the only legit news sources in the country that are approved by the RNC and certified for use on this board. (oops, I forgot Drudge)

I gave you a story and a source. Work with that, not the messenger that delivered it. Who knows, you may actually find some facts that prove the story wrong. I'm sure Northstar is actually the largest certified public accounting firm in California and not a tiny unqualified outfit run out of some guy's garage.

[Gunslinger]

[lazs2]

rpm... it seems like a non story to me.   I'm not even interested at this point.   Gee.... things aren't going perfectly smoothly during an occupation with daily acts of terrorism....  who'd a thunk?

let me know if anything interesting develops.

lazs

[Toad]

Both "sides" on this board have their extremists. There are insulting people of every political persuasion posting here.

I will stick my neck out and say that IN MY OPINION I see more ad hominem arguments and more dodging of the question under discussion from our "liberal" posters.

And this for Nash, an op-ed piece from an everyday guy working stiff in the red state heartland that was in the KC Star today. I liked it.

Whining from losers has grown tiresome

BLAKE HURST


Sally Field was widely ridiculed some years ago for gushing in her Oscar acceptance speech that: “You like me, you really like me.”

Post-election analysis is split about the reasons President Bush won re-election. Immediate reaction focused upon exit polls that seemed to show moral values as the deciding issue; later commentary has rejected that conclusion as the result of a poorly drawn question.

I don't know why Bush won, as people voted the way they did for any number of reasons. But one thing can safely be said about the election. To paraphrase Sally, the chattering classes hate people who voted for George Bush. They really do hate us.

Novelist Jane Smiley credits the election results to “the decision of the right to exploit ignorance in the citizenry.” She goes on to remark that she is originally from Missouri, and her relatives are Bush supporters. She says they voted the way they did not because they were stupid, but because of greed and “Republican feelings of superiority.” I hope she isn't headed to Grandma's for Christmas dinner.

Lawrence O'Donnell, a Democratic activist and a writer for the “The West Wing,” believes the blue states will consider secession from the Union. Geraldine Ferraro is willing to consider same, and points out that the red states will be in trouble without our blue state betters, as we “have no talent.”

No talent? Why, I know plenty of my neighbors who can chew tobacco and eat supper at the same time. Not only that, but we can hit road signs with Bud Light cans at 50 miles an hour. Maureen Dowd helpfully points out that Bush “ran a jihad in America so he can fight one in Iraq.” Columnist Paul Krugman decided we were voting about the “fate of America as we know it.”

The only argument seems to be over whether the correct metaphor is jihad or the American Civil War. Historian Simon Schama writes, “Not since the Civil War has the fault line between America's two halves been so glaringly clear, nor the chasm between its two cultures so starkly unbridgeable.” Smiley also prefers the Civil War as a metaphor, continuing her rant by comparing Bush voters to Quantrill's raiders.

Garrison Keillor is partial to a religious explanation for the election, and would solve the problem by denying “born again” voters the franchise. Syndicated columnist Tad Bartimus, whose column appears in The Star, says: “Fundamentalist Christians have launched a jihad here at home based on their version of family values — war over negotiation, ostracism over inclusion, fear over hope, paranoia over trust.”

These folks can sure teach us yokels the meaning of tolerance, all right.

It is a sign of how things have changed that the left has moved from standing up for the little guy to calling him a stupid, bigoted, religious nut. Might be that there is a lesson there, one that would stand the Democratic Party well, were it interested in winning elections rather than proclaiming its moral and intellectual superiority.

Jihad? For goodness sake, all Bush voters want is to be left alone on religious matters. Leave the Pledge of Allegiance alone and don't mess with marriage. Overturning Roe v. Wade would just return the abortion issue to the states, where it has always belonged. If the blue states are so confident of their intellect, talent, and the strength of their arguments, then they shouldn't fear a democratic solution to a problem that would lend itself to a compromise.

Of course, they might want to think about the demographic consequences. Out here in Jesusland, we're already breeding faster, and an abortion regime demarcated along red-blue lines would soon mean that our vote margins would be even larger.

In Iraq, true jihadists are beheading fellow Muslims. Around here, all people want to do is to continue to say “under God” when we recite the Pledge of Allegiance. Those hardly seem comparable, and when people like those I've quoted accuse conservatives of some sort of religious warfare, they lose all credibility, and any chance of winning the next election.

And the Civil War metaphor is just as overwrought. We have a two-party system, one that by its nature leads to conflict, and closely divided elections. It also tends to lead to compromise, and parties that move toward the center of where they perceive the electorate to be.

It has worked pretty well; I've seen no indication that it's broken.

I'm sorry, but the response of these folks can't be taken seriously. They're dissing everything and everybody I hold dear, and all I want to do is giggle.

I think they need a job, one that involves some physical labor, and one that leaves them little time to think. Because for all their condescension about their superior intellects, their contact with reality is fleeting. Their complaints are repetitive and extreme and, worst of all, boring.

As Adam Smith said, there is much ruin in a nation. It was only an election, after all, and there will be another one in four years.

Blake Hurst is a farmer and greenhouse grower in Tarkio, Mo. To reach Midwest Voices columnists, write to the author c/o the Editorial Page, The Kansas City Star, 1729 Grand Blvd., Kansas City, MO 64108. Or send e-mail to

[AKIron]

Some aren't content to ridicule republicans/conservatives or talk about succession, Jesse Jackson is trying rally "insurrection". All I can say is "bring it on".

[Nash]

Originally posted by Toad
BooHoo they're calling me names.

Cry about it.

[Toad]

Dream on. You know those big, bad people calling me mean names doesn't bother me in the least. I save my tears for real problems.

Just thought you'd enjoy seeing how an average Joe from Northern Missouri views the tears that are falling like rain in the Kerry camp.

[Nash]

Okay Toad... There are nutjobs on either side.

Tell ya what. Is it safe to call this here BBS a microcosm of... I dunno what?

Lets look at what happens here over the course of this next week - starting now. And lets see who the babies are?

Sound good?

[Toad]

I won't be at my computer most of next week.

Start an "ad hominem/insult/dodge argument thread" though.  You log in the bad ole conservatives and I'm sure someone will list the bad ole liberals in there for you.

I'll read it when I get back.

[Nash]

Not even neccessary, and you know it.

But sure... for a goof.... lets hash it out when you get back. I'm gonna need to be reminded though.