Howdy Aces,
Kev and I had tried to recreate this 'dryland trout manoover' (mispelling to avoid copyright infringement) back in beta, and never pulled it off, using la7 and p38, iirc. I don't think we really pushed it near the edge of a stall, so its not necessarily, or at least doesn't appear to be, a function of violent inputs.
My suspicion is that the extent of the floppiness depends heavily on plane, current connection status(quality, anyway), and probably also on input damping, weapon/fuel loadout, and of course, speed, angle, and of course, the pie-luts, but, most heavily on the skill of pilot at making a solid maneuver at the edge of stalling. This would make for a pretty wide set of variables for a recreation, but I've noticed the floppiness mostly from 190s, 38s, and the occasional la7 that get down low and mix it up in a furball at comparatively low speeds.
I mostly fly the hurri, mostly low, and normally with all sorts of violent maneuvering and rolling out to avoid getting shot. I use a good bit of stick damping (1/4 to 1/3 up the slider), and have not yet been accused of flopping (sure that's gonna change now). While the hurri isn't prone to violent, unexpected stalls/snap rolls, if the DTM were a result of violent stick inputs, I'd have it mastered. I don't see the floppy fish bit lots, which I think tends to support, to some extent, the panic-induced, and possibly dweeb-induced DTMs. I still see many planes simply come up/down/around at an angle and then roll merrily out of my sights, which makes my angry, but only b/c i blew the shot, not because they got on the tilt-a-whirl of doom and shot me as i blew past.
Surely someone with an intimate knowledge of the airplanes (i'm a 1 plane wun-dur) could select a batch of the planes that roll most sharply and run some tests with a small group of the same folks, and see how it looks for all involved. My feeling on all of this, is that even if it is a good move, and the game simply can't handle it, we've got a problem. I've very few problems with the game, even on a miserable dial-up conn atm, but seeing a plane whirl around like a leaf then dive/climb/turn suddenly and without any indication which way its gonna go, well, that just sucks buttermilk.
Anyhow, I'll shut up now. I need to go tear apart a sink.
Blue skies,
hub
