Author Topic: REQUEST - Make troop porking tougher (Read 1816 times)

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #45 on:** December 27, 2004, 01:33:43 PM »

Leave troops as they are

on the night in question I was one of the Knights going around and porking troops 3-4 bases back. Myself and 1-2 others.

None was an intentional suicide run. In fact I landed most of mine and I never climbed more then 10K comming or going. As did the others.
In my case I often came in on the deck.
Just as often I saw many enemy planes fly right by me more intent on being in on the steamroll then in what I might be trying to do
The only time I didnt land was the couple times I was either shot down or feild ack destroyed my controls making the plane unflyable.
Near as I remember from the radio chatter it was the same with the others

None of the barracks was taken out wiht small calibre. It was done with either Ord or Cannon rounds,sometimes both.

We were going 3-4 bases back because thats how far goons were being flown in for either resupply or feild capture. There were several times I saw 3-4 goons headed to a base for either.
Several met their demise at my hands.

Killing troops is now the only effective way to slow or stop the horde.
Barracks to NOT easily go down with small calibre guns and takes a nice chunk of ammo to do with cannon rounds.

Now if they want to do something perhaps have two types of barracks, one for troops and one for feild supplies.
Or better yet, seperate ones for the resupply of ammo,fuel,and building supply(hangars ,radar)

But either leave the troops alone or re instate the ability to pork fuel below 75%.

The greatly outnumbered need a way to defend.
To make these stronger only helps the horde as only the horde will be able to destroy them with numbers

rshubert · « **Reply #46 on:** December 28, 2004, 01:30:36 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Where's Urchin when I need him?

The problem is that the more activity starts to focus on these sorts of "tactics" and require such a low level of skill, the more the game will ... suck. You don't learn squat strafing barracks - certainly not after the first dozen times you've done it. So if all you do night after night is strafe non-moving targets you will continue to suck at the game for all eternity.

I'll give you an example. A couple months ago a lot of people were reallty sick of folks bringing in heavy bomber flights on the deck to take out hangars (well, we still are sick of it). A couple of the practitioners of this technique came back with the question of: "What other way is there?" They meant it. With all the planes and options in this game, they couldn't think of any other way to destroy targets.

Whooaah, there, big fella. Whoa.

We go through this discourse every few months, when one of the self-appointed "Most Puissant Knights and Guardians of the Purity of the AH Flame" decides that other people aren't adhering to his/her definition of HOW THE GAME SHOULD BE PLAYED.

I don't tell you how to fly your fights, or fight your flights. I have NEVER seen a "strat player" put up a post flaming the players who practice their interpretation of "pure WW2 air-to-air combat in a virtual environment".

What we do here--all of us, including you, oh uberjaeger--has absolutely NO BASIS IN ANY OBJECTIVE REALITY. It's a game. It's to have fun with. That being said, it's a fairly free-form sandbox. No rules. Second accounts are used, and accepted as a "normal" consequence. B-17s fly at treetop height, bombing and strafing until they are destroyed by Ta152s or Me262s flying at the same height. Hurricane IICs fight against Fw190D9s, and Spitfires, and other Hurricanes, at the same time. There are three sides.

I am here to have fun, not learn anything. If I want to increase my flying skills, I go to the airport, rent a plane and instructor, and have at it. Here, I talk to my friends, play a game, have some fun, and blow off a little tension.

Please stop telling me how to have fun.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #47 on:** December 28, 2004, 04:00:26 PM »

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Originally posted by rshubert
... I am here to have fun, not learn anything. ...

"Mission Accomplished"

detch01 · « **Reply #48 on:** December 28, 2004, 04:11:42 PM »

DoK -looks like Voltaire's wish applicable to more than just himself

asw

Scaevola · « **Reply #49 on:** December 29, 2004, 04:10:25 AM »

I must be missing something here, but I'm sure I read somewhere..

"Aces High takes the art and science of vintage WWII air combat
and sets it in an online high intensity environment where
hundreds of players can battle it out with and against
each other. High fidelity air combat is the heart of
Aces High".

If I buy a box of Bananas, I expect a box of Bananas.

If you look through similar posts the majority who post a sensible disussion either for or against a particular idea are the ones who want to improve the general feel of the game with regards to the above statement.

It's an unfortunate aspect of games such as these (where it isn't just point and shoot) that you'll have people who for whatever reason just take the easy path and are unwilling to acept a challenge or try and get into the "spirit" of the game.

I agree with everyone who says "it's my $15 and I can play how I want", but I want to know why people pay $15 to play on a WWII simulation but won't accept the challenge of playing the game as intended and always look for cheesy easy options instead.

rshubert · « **Reply #50 on:** December 29, 2004, 09:55:07 AM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
"Mission Accomplished"

Well, DUH.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #51 on:** December 29, 2004, 10:10:19 AM »

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Originally posted by rshubert
Well, DUH.

Indeed.

SPQR · « **Reply #52 on:** December 29, 2004, 10:23:55 AM »

Troops should be one set of bldgs and supplies another!

Baine · « **Reply #53 on:** December 30, 2004, 04:00:33 PM »

There's really no excuse for not making it tougher to take down troops.
The current set up is in no way realistic, is too easy for one suicide jockey to affect the wide outcome of events for one evening and is really pretty silly when you think about it (as is the idea of a 110 strafing down a carrier.)
If were basing this on RL, I would think taking out troops would be the toughest of all porking missions, since anybody with half a brain would head for the slit trenches the minute that sultry voice started intoning "Base Under Attack."
For people who say those who don't like the current setup should hover over all their frontline bases to intercept porkers I respond: What's wrong with defenders upping from rear bases and then hunting the goonies to prevent base capture. That would seem the more realistic option in this situation.
Can you imagine how long World War II would have taken if the Japs could have stopped the invasions of Iwo Jima, Saipan and the Philippines by crashing a single plane into a tentload of troops?

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #54 on:** January 01, 2005, 07:00:49 PM »

If we're not gonna harden barracks, how about making resupplying 'em worth 10 perks - 5 fighter plus 5 bomber/vehicle - depending on what was used to deliver 'em.

Then it only makes sense to destroy barracks at a field you plan to take or which is direct threat. Otherwise you're handing perks to flyers on the other side.

rshubert · « **Reply #55 on:** January 04, 2005, 10:35:14 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
If we're not gonna harden barracks, how about making resupplying 'em worth 10 perks - 5 fighter plus 5 bomber/vehicle - depending on what was used to deliver 'em.

Then it only makes sense to destroy barracks at a field you plan to take or which is direct threat. Otherwise you're handing perks to flyers on the other side.

Or you could simply learn that having troops and supplies is a good thing, and resupply them when they go down. That's what we do. And we do get perks for it. Not 10, but then I don't do it for the perks. I do it because I am a team player.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #56 on:** January 04, 2005, 11:24:21 PM »

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Originally posted by rshubert
Or you could simply learn that having troops and supplies is a good thing, and resupply them when they go down. That's what we do. And we do get perks for it. Not 10, but then I don't do it for the perks. I do it because I am a team player.

My freakin' hero.

What makes you think I don't run resupplies from time to time?

What makes you think?

And I can pretty much guarantee that I have far less to learn about AH than you do.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #57 on:** January 05, 2005, 01:27:37 AM »

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Originally posted by Baine
There's really no excuse for not making it tougher to take down troops.
The current set up is in no way realistic,

Other then the flight modeling and look of the aircraft.(and I've seen even that debated about)
What part of this game is in any way "realistic"?

rshubert · « **Reply #58 on:** January 05, 2005, 09:56:45 AM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
My freakin' hero.

What makes you think I don't run resupplies from time to time?

What makes you think?

And I can pretty much guarantee that I have far less to learn about AH than you do.

Done with the urination competition yet, putz? The problem with you, you see, is that you want it to be your way or the highway. I strongly suggest you take your ball and go home. Maybe mommy will make it all better for you. Or you can just play with yourself.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #59 on:** January 05, 2005, 10:32:19 AM »

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Originally posted by rshubert
... The problem with you, you see, is that you want it to be your way or the highway. ...

Your lack of comprehension is indeed quite staggering. I'd accuse you of using Intardnet 101 flaming techniques, but you aren't even that sophistacated.

Your last message is ripe with homoerotic references. You may want to take that shiny silver thing out of your backside, it could be cutting off circulation to your brain.