For those who want a German bomber...

[GScholz]

I have "Hitler's Luftwaffe". It does have a few known errors in it, but all in all it's a very good book.

[JB73]

Originally posted by Karnak
The Fw200 was fragile, slow, poorly defended and carried significantly less ordinance than the Ju88A-4.  It would be in all ways inferior to the Ju88A-4.

but it could fly forever.

they actually had a mission set up to bomb out the panama canal from germany. the planed would make it 1 way no problem, but either have to land near there or ditch.

the range on the condor was awsome.

also for killin CV's the torpedos were great. (my guess is they could be dropped from alt with the condor, as it normally flew above the anti aircraft guns when on patrol looking for boats)

[Tails]

Originally posted by JB73
also for killin CV's the torpedos were great. (my guess is they could be dropped from alt with the condor, as it normally flew above the anti aircraft guns when on patrol looking for boats)

If they dropped from alt, my guess would be parachute retarded torpedos? Be pretty interesting if they could be shot down before splashdown.

[rshubert]

adding all sorts of planes to the game, but I really think we should add an EARLY war bomber or two to all sides before we add any more late-war stuff.  He111, or DO17, and/or a Betty and/or a Jill...

They are desperately needed for scenarios, squad ops, and snapshots.

But yeah, let's get an He177, too!

[GRUNHERZ]

The He177A5 or Ju188 really shoud be added to the game.

[Angus]

What I have is "Warplanes of the Luftwaffe"
edited by David Donald.


Any good?

At least very good illustrations etc.

[GRUNHERZ]

Or how about the Ju288, a 400+ mph bomber with some 7,000lbs of ordenance.

[GScholz]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Or how about the Ju288, a 400+ mph bomber with some 7,000lbs of ordenance.

That would be great except only 22 pre-production planes were made before the big bomber-cancellations of 1944. Most of those 22 Ju288's crashed in testing, and only a handful were flown into battle in 1944.

Originally posted by Angus
What I have is "Warplanes of the Luftwaffe"
edited by David Donald.


Any good?

At least very good illustrations etc.

I don't know that book. Illustrated aircraft encyclopaedia only?

"Hitler's Luftwaffe - A pictorial history and technical encyclopaedia of Hitler's air power in World War II" by Tony Wood and Bill Gunston (edited by Philip de Ste. Croix) and published by Salamander Books Ltd in 1978.

It's comprehensive, but not very detailed. About half of its 250 pages are dedicated to the history of the Luftwaffe, from its conception to its demise, including all its major campaigns. The second half is an illustrated encyclopaedia of all aircraft fielded by the Luftwaffe, and also the designs that didn't make it into service.

[GRUNHERZ]

I know.



But damn was it cool looking. Loadout of B17, speed like a fighter, and a whole bunch of defensive turrets even with some 20mm cannon.

[GScholz]

Oh yes, it would be awesome to have it.

[frank3]

Originally posted by Angus
The twin 177 was prone to catching fire (engine related) nicnamed "Sarg" by the crews.
But didn't they also make a more basic 4 engine version?

You're right about the fireproblems, it was a major problem and therefor Goring or someone forbid to make anymore of them (Heinkel kept building them though)

The 177 I showed already has 4 engines.

Engine: 2 Daimler-Benz DB 610A-1/B-1
Thrust: 2,950lb
Note: Each engine comprised of two V12 liquid cooled engines geared to one propeller.

[frank3]

Originally posted by JB73
but it could fly forever.

they actually had a mission set up to bomb out the panama canal from germany. the planed would make it 1 way no problem, but either have to land near there or ditch.

As you said, it's range was awsome, but I doubt it's more or less then then B-17's etc.
Don't forget the B-17's got flown from America to England

[GScholz]

Originally posted by frank3
You're right about the fireproblems, it was a major problem and therefor Goring or someone forbid to make anymore of them (Heinkel kept building them though)

The 177 I showed already has 4 engines.

You are mistaken. Göring forbade Heinkel from continuing to nag him about permission to make a four-engined version. The He-177 is a two-engined aircraft. The DB-610 engine is made up of two iV-12 engine blocks, but it is still one engine by definition.

The He-277 Heinkel secretly developed had four engines driving four propellers.

[Angus]

Hey Scholzie, ISBN 1 874023 56 5
(Mine is autographed by Rall )
The planelist is over 70.
It looks pretty good and has lots of photos & drawings.
I can look up some numbers for you if you like, to test it, just gimme something to look for.

Then I have another in German, more about the LW though.

Die Deutche Luftwaffe im 2. Weltkrieg. Daten, Fakten, Kommentare.
ISBN 3-8112-1907-3

Best of Luck

Angus

[MiloMorai]

Originally posted by frank3
As you said, it's range was awsome, but I doubt it's more or less then then B-17's etc.
Don't forget the B-17's got flown from America to England

The Fw200C-3 had a range of 4500km(2800mi) and 14.5 hrs flight time. For the C-6 it was 5500km(3400mi) and 17.0hrs flight time. For the F it was 6900km(4300mi) and 23.0 hrs flight time.