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Offline eagl

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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2005, 01:11:13 PM »
Regarding the "immaculate ejection"...  

It's as good of a guess as any.  When he hit the water his cru-69 (whatever) was disconnected from his harness and they never could recover the seat or the plane.  He was in a defensive breakturn and that is a violent, aggressive maneuver.  At 9 G's his neck is supporting around 200 lbs so not noticing a 40 lb pull on the face isn't unreasonable.

I highly doubt the pilot actually did anything to cause the ejection.  In a breakturn the only thing being PULLED is the control stick.  Everything else is a PUSH - feet on the pedals, calves, legs, butt muscles all tight, left hand on the throttle or pushing on the canopy rail, etc.  Nobody I've talked to can figure out how a guy in a breakturn could pull the handles unless part of his gear was hanging loose and got caught in the handgrips.

That all assumes the seat and associated equipment was functioning properly.  No pilot worth a crap is going to point at egress and say "your seat punched him out by itself!", even though that is something that theoretically could have happened.  The T-37 -1 has a warning about putting stuff under the seat because if the seat slams down to the floor hard enough and hits something under the seat, it could theoretically fire.  There was a landing mishap where a T-38 hit a barrier and the force and angle of the collision fired the seat killing the pilot.  It's possible that during the breakturn the seat lowered suddenly and something caught the handles or something else on the seat, and it fired.

I guess my point is that we can't prove what happened, and we can be equally confident that the pilot didn't just pull the handles and the seat didn't just decide to fire itself for no reason.  That leaves only a few possibilities, and the only bit of personal equipment that can physically reach the handles and pull them is the O2 hose if the cru-69 (whatever) gets disconnected from the harness.  Nothing else really seems to be possible or make any sense.

Now I've heard of F-16 pilots punching themselves out while taking a piss inflight, but the one I remember involved the G-suit at the knees getting hung up on the control stick and the plane going out of control, not anything getting caught on the handles and pulling them.  I usually safe the seat before loosening the straps and moving around in the cockpit but that's a personal choice I make.
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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2005, 03:54:21 PM »
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RPM you beat me to it...

Thrawn... LOL!  The trick is to inform them that certain "age appropriate behavior" isn't appropriate as they get older, and sometimes that takes punishment.  The kids that aren't taught the idea that actions have consequences are the ones that grow up to think it's ok to drug girls at parties and rape them.


Absolutely, I'm certainly not an advocate of a completely laizze faire method of parenting (or lack of parenting).

And in the specific situation I think Gunslinger made a fantasic decision in co-opting his children in fixing the situation (helping to clean up), and depending on his current level of understanding english perhaps an explanation on why it's not okay to dump cereal all over the place.  But I honestly think that as far as his boy is concerned that is enough at this stage in his developement.  Of course I don't have nearly information nor know Gunslinger or his family, so my opinion is pretty worthless.

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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2005, 04:06:28 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2005, 06:23:54 PM »
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Wombatt, please tell us that you meant "wrapped"...:rofl



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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2005, 07:05:09 PM »
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Absolutely, I'm certainly not an advocate of a completely laizze faire method of parenting (or lack of parenting).

And in the specific situation I think Gunslinger made a fantasic decision in co-opting his children in fixing the situation (helping to clean up), and depending on his current level of understanding english perhaps an explanation on why it's not okay to dump cereal all over the place.  But I honestly think that as far as his boy is concerned that is enough at this stage in his developement.  Of course I don't have nearly information nor know Gunslinger or his family, so my opinion is pretty worthless.


You guys are right.  There's two year olds that don't understand the concept of punishment.....then there's two year olds that reach a stage when they start to learn and grasp the concept.  My son has had an easy ride thus far being the youngest.  He turns three in april and the "attitude" portion of his behavior has kicked in full swing.  This tells me it's time to upgrade his punishment.

In addition I beleive in the reward system.  You reward for good behavior and punish for bad.  When my daughter was his age she was a terror too but she was alot smarter.  She made a mess one time and I made her scrub the carpet BUT while she scrubbed I made her repeat out loud "when I'm a good girl, good things happen" over and over again.  After about 10 minutes I put in barney's "clean up song" and we made a game out of it.

I'm not the best parent and by all means I sometimes spend too much time on the computer and loose my lid every now and then but I allways end up working things out with my kids.

My wife on the other hand wants to be their "best friend" wich I know doesnt work.  BUT, we'll definatly find a comprimise if it keeps my daughter from coming home at 16 saying she's pregnant.  ;)

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« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2005, 07:20:31 PM »
Great thread Gunslinger. Our only child turns 18 on the 13th, and he just got his Eagle scout award. But....I remember those days like the one you started the thread with.  Take heart.

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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2005, 07:22:35 PM »
Thrawn raised 3 Gold fish... two drowned, the other ran away. Heh Parenting Thrawn?

LOL


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« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2005, 07:25:50 PM »
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Our only child turns 18 on the 13th, and he just got his Eagle scout award.


WTG Slimm50... you must be one proud Dad!!!  

Can't wait to get my Son into Scouting.

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« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2005, 07:26:00 PM »
Congrats slimm50.  You probably earned that scouting badge right along with your son.  To get the really good extras out of life, you have to show something extra beyond your peers, and achieving eagle scout is a great place to start.  If he can stay away from drugs and the rest of the extra-curricular crap that goes on in college, he ought to have a bright future.

Hopefully the work put into the badge can translate into some extra college scholarship cash too :)
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« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2005, 07:28:51 PM »
Yeah what Eagl said!!!

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« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2005, 07:31:00 PM »
Dont spend your life living for the future, but plan for it.

The future may never come but the present is always there.

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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2005, 07:44:19 PM »
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Great thread Gunslinger. Our only child turns 18 on the 13th, and he just got his Eagle scout award. But....I remember those days like the one you started the thread with.  Take heart.


Like I said earlier.....I receive no greater pleasure in life then watching my children succeed.  I'm sure you do to....said it before but I'll say it again...congrats.

AND just because you said this was a great thread:


with God's help my son will grow up to become a fine republican!

LOL  ;)

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« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2005, 07:52:02 PM »
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« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2005, 10:16:12 AM »
neilsen... wallpaper allmost allways makes a room look smaller and tends to point out imperfections in surface smoothness and plumb.

some is not very durable and the busier the pattern the quicker you will get sick of it.    Use vinyl adhesive on any type of paper or fabric.   Use it dilutted more to paste "prepasted wallcoverings"

timing is essential and what makes a good paperhanger... you want to paste as many as you can so that you allways have about 3 ready to go...  in papers it is to ensure that they swell as much as they are going to so as to not get "bubbles"

It is really fun for me to watch people try to do wallpaper.

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« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2005, 10:23:31 AM »
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neilsen... wallpaper allmost allways makes a room look smaller and tends to point out imperfections in surface smoothness and plumb.

some is not very durable and the busier the pattern the quicker you will get sick of it.    Use vinyl adhesive on any type of paper or fabric.   Use it dilutted more to paste "prepasted wallcoverings"

timing is essential and what makes a good paperhanger... you want to paste as many as you can so that you allways have about 3 ready to go...  in papers it is to ensure that they swell as much as they are going to so as to not get "bubbles"

It is really fun for me to watch people try to do wallpaper.

lazs


My dad is quite good at it cause every rom in the home i grew up in has wallpaper. I don't wanna ask him to help tho cause i wanna show him that i can do it on my own.  :) From what i recall my mom used to ready a new sheet while he was placing one. Think im gonna need the missus to help me.