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Offline Martlet

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« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2005, 05:56:54 PM »
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Yep, just keep thinking that and your side will keep loosing elections and elections and electipons...


Exactly.

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« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2005, 05:58:12 PM »
standard party line.  

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« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2005, 06:00:04 PM »
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standard party line.  



Yep.  And the absolute truth.

Keep yawning.  I look forward to watching Romney's inauguration in 4 years.

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« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2005, 06:01:02 PM »
okey doke.

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« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2005, 06:03:37 PM »
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okey doke.



Someone's in need of a PEST counseling session.

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« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2005, 06:05:38 PM »
bravo lima oscar whiskey.

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« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2005, 08:39:36 PM »
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Ok, please tell me exactly which 'ton' of parts of the 12,700lb Pratt PW2040 engine wound up a mile away from the crash site.

Please tell me your experience dealing with aviation accidents and inflight breakups.

Please tell me which institution you escaped from in order to believe any of the garbage conspiracy theorists are feeding you.  When an airplane is moving at Vwaytoofast parts start coming off.  Engines overspeed when too much air is rushed into them and can cause a whole engine section to go spewing out.

All I did was try to offer you a perfectly viable alternative to your wacko way of thinking but instead of saying "oh, that could be a possiblity" you duck and cover while sticking your head in the sand and scream "NOOOooOooOO, it can't be I am right!"

 

I'm really gonna shoot you to the moon with this one...

I don't think they need to explain anything to me.  I have an inherent trust and faith in the government that the right knowledge is getting to the right people.  9/11 is gone and overwith.  How the hijackers did what they did and all the in flight details which I am sure the government knows have no business being in my hands.  I think its good to keep those ideas out of the hands of knuckleheads like you and simply let you toot your horns about a conspiracy theory.  I think that with what the government knows about how the terrorists took the aircraft and how they acted in flight could save lives in the future should it happen again.  Its better to keep it safely under wraps because what good would it be to release a "how to" manual for hijacking an airliner?

(Insert "You are a tool" photograph here)


Golfer, I am here on these BBs as a totally private person independent of any organizational affiliation and I don't voice any conspiracy theorists here. Until today I haven't even heard about any conspiracy theory concerning (I quote the Secretary of the Defense) the "shooting down" of the Flight 93 Airliner on 9-11. My very limited experience with the shooting down of the civilian airliners
(only one fake passenger spyplane and one stray cargo plane involved in Col. North's affair)
may be a big drawback in my "aviation accidents and inflight breakups" expertise. So I was ready to hear the word of experts on it.
But instead of that I see angry mob attacking my personal opinion in this matter. And more than that, some guys like you are trying to ascribe to me conspiracy theory about that fateful Flight 93. I am telling you with utmost sincerity that my personal conclusions drawn from the press and TV news just happen to coincide with the general aspects of one of your hated conspiracy theories. But the very fact that my personal and fully independent conclusions in this particular matter (I have never heard a word or read a single line about Flight 93 conspiracy theory before the guys like yourself started to accuse me in being the "tool" for it) speaks for itself. There's no smoke without the fire. Something IS wrong with the picture the general public is presented with.

And how dare you to shamelessly accuse me of being  some kind of the "tool" when my daughter barely escaped becoming a victim of the events of 9-11 ? Or maybe you walked hundreds of Manhattan city blocks uptown and then downtown on 9-11 trying to get home from work like I did?  Did you see the first smoke coming out of the WTC and hear the direct radiobroadcast when the Towers were collapsing?. Were you walking, exausted from the heat, down the streets of Manhattan on that day and were you thanking the Manhattanites, both the immigrants and the US-born citizens, who offered free to everybody the water from their stores and the lemonade from the make-shift stands? Were you smelling that horrible smoke from the WTC on 9-11 or were you inhaling it for the next several months, that smoke filled with the health-threatening particles and with the whiffs of burned human bodies ? Or maybe you were desperately trying to reach your loved ones over the cell phone that went dead?
  How you dare ?! May be you tell all those people who now suffer from the inhalation of that smoke why the head of the Environment Protection Agency lied to them about the "harmlessness" of that smoke?

Shut up Golfer, stick your tongue into your ace-hole, and just listen to what other people say.
And I don't want to discuss with you the direct link of the airplane engine swept by the g-force
to the "how to"  manual for the terrorists. There's obviously absolutely no link between these two things.

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« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2005, 08:54:05 PM »
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bravo lima oscar whiskey.

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Alpha Bravo, Charlie Mike...


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Don't try to feed me watermelon and I won't hand any back.

genozaur
Yer crap is unfounded...so stick yer head back into yer asss.

Mac

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« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2005, 09:10:49 PM »
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Alpha Bravo, Charlie Mike...


<--- TSSBI SCI Access

Don't try to feed me watermelon and I won't hand any back.

genozaur
Yer crap is unfounded...so stick yer head back into yer asss.

Mac


AWMAC, have you forgotten to open yer eyes when you tryed to read my first post at the beginning of this thread ?

The crappin' dude was and is Mr "Rum". If you don't like to dig his crap you are free to stay away from it. But don't you turn that thing upside down just in order to make MY QUESTIONS look "unfounded". They have the solid foundation in the "Rum"'s crap.

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« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2005, 11:00:24 PM »
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And how dare you to shamelessly accuse me of being some kind of the "tool" when my daughter barely escaped becoming a victim of the events of 9-11 ? Or maybe you walked hundreds of Manhattan city blocks uptown and then downtown on 9-11 trying to get home from work like I did? Did you see the first smoke coming out of the WTC and hear the direct radiobroadcast when the Towers were collapsing?.



You have no shame.  I'm not going to degrade the events to satisfy you with a mudslinging contest just because you're already dirty.

I will say that I did start my semester late because I was wearing a glove and respirator.  But I'm sure you'd think that was just playing in a sandbox.  Or a good friend from high school who was working that summer in the WTC and it was their last week of work before going to I think NYU.  I don't need to tell you what happened to her.

You sir, have achieved the highest attainable level of the designation salamander.  You arrogant bastard, who the hell are you to tell anyone what to do.  From the start I wasn't taking sides, simply adding another point of view for speculation using some knowledge of aviation and how a pilot of roughly their skill level might react in a situation.

I won't lie, I don't buy into the flight was shot down.  I was also adding that an eyewitness report is not always what it seems, in fact even with a background in aviation they need to be taken with a grain of salt and definitely not at face value.

My first post was written completely objectively and mentioned no names, from then on you engaged in libelous writing against me as though I'd offended you in some way.

What goes around comes around, and I'm telling you to go **** yourself.  Whether or not that bursts your fun balloon, hurts your feelings or brings down your happy thermometer a few notches I couldn't care less.  How dare you try to play a game of oneupsmanship using 9/11 as a playing card.  How dare you desecrate the memories of those that didn't survive.  More people lost more friends than I did that day, and how would they feel or how would you feel if someone tried to boast about what it was like without knowing any facts

I don't want to see that day happen again but frankly a full and detailed report PUBLISHED publically on the events before/during/after the attack would do nothing but list what the terrorists did right and what they shouldn't do next time.  If you think they can't learn from their mistakes, you are sadly mistaken.  If you think they wouldn't use such a report against us, you are also grossly naive.

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« Reply #85 on: January 08, 2005, 11:38:35 PM »
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I don't voice any conspiracy theorists here.



You contributed so many but this is clearly the most ridiculous and false thing you said in this thread...
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« Reply #86 on: January 09, 2005, 12:35:22 AM »
Now you're talking, Golfer.
And there weren't much talk before.
I feel sorry for your friend at the WTC.
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Nobody demands the full AND DETAILED report. But a lot of things which are in no way useful for terrorists can and should be explained.
And particularly the enigmatic phrase by Mr Rumsfeld, that conspiracy theory propagandist (you can't deny that his words have added a lot of fuel oil to the already heated debate as it appeares).
 And I call this guy Mr "Rum" not because I hate him, despise him or anything of the kind, but because these are the BBs and the shortening of the name is the usual way of avoiding multiple repetitions. And besides it, this draws more attention to the discussed toplc, and also brings an element of fun in otherwise dry distant conversation. So much for the lengthy deviation from the topic of this thread.

BUT MY QUESTIONS STILL  LINGER UNANSWERED BECAUSE UNEXPECTEDLY FOR MYSELF I HAVE STEPPED ON AN ANTIPERSONNEL MINE. AND MOST OF THE COMRADES IN ARMS AROUND ME ARE SIMPLY AFRAID TO COME UP ANY CLOSER TO ME AND TO MY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

I THANK VERY MUCH  THE SUPPORT TEAM
OF  "MONSTER CONSPIRACY THEORISTS". MY SPECIAL THANKS GO TO Mr JB88.

I CLOSE UP MY PART OF DISCUSSION HERE BECAUSE I CAN'T REASON WITH THE SCARED CIVILIANS WHO ARE STILL IN SHOCK AFTER THE EVENTS OF 9-11.

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« Reply #87 on: January 09, 2005, 12:40:59 AM »
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You contributed so many but this is clearly the most ridiculous and false thing you said in this thread...


GRUNHERZ,  you are a blockhead.
Thanks God, you are enjoying it.
Go drink your warm milk and go to bed.

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« Reply #88 on: January 09, 2005, 12:44:36 AM »
Is it true that people who use only CAPS have little dicks?

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« Reply #89 on: January 09, 2005, 12:50:38 AM »
Its hillariously funny how a guy who thinks the USAF is behind the 911 flight 93 crash and wont tell us about it  for some mysterious reason and belives that Rummy is using this "secret" to blackmail Bush into keeping him on as Sec. Defense actually says that he cannot reason with us because we are the ones who are "scared."  

:rofl

Really this guy has got to be a troll or is an all out nut. Look how he says that he never read anything about any 93 conspiracy until after we started attacking his views in this thread - yet his first post had a link to a 911 flight 93 conspiracy and he even claimed - in his own words - that Rummy was using this "secret" to keep his Job..

So which is it?  Are you a lunatic or a troll? Maybe just a liar?
« Last Edit: January 09, 2005, 12:57:03 AM by GRUNHERZ »