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Offline jamusta

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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2005, 12:46:55 PM »
I lawn dart quite often. Its not on purpose but sometimes I forget about p38's compression. Im sure a penalty would help remind me. As for the new guys it would show them that what they see some vets do is not appropriate. I have seen and heard plenty of folks intentionally follow their ord in just so they can hurry and up with more without having to fly back and rearm. As aubrey has pointed out as a new guy he follows the vets and thinks its a normal practice when the new guys see stuff like that. This is why I am trying to come up with solutions to change back to they way gameplay was. Maybe some will see these post and realize that this is not the way to go. Thats what I am hoping for.

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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2005, 01:03:33 PM »
What they need to do is harden the towns and bases, making strafing down stuff impossible, set bomb arming to 5k alt minimum. Make it so CV sink only to torpedo fire, and bombing them only disables flight ops. And when it comes to gooning, if a guy captures a town, he is awarded alot of perks, and is given an option at despawn, where he would like them..fighter, bomber or gv points.

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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2005, 01:13:27 PM »
I'd rather see a perk penalty applied to those that alt-F4 out of trouble.

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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2005, 01:25:11 PM »
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I'd rather see a perk penalty applied to those that alt-F4 out of trouble.


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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2005, 04:36:08 PM »
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You are right reward is a poor insentive but penalty is a great insentive


You really want to know why this would never happen? Why we wouldnt see players being penalized for doing the things Jamusta mentioned.

Because its bad business move. Atleast judging from how Hitech has handled/responded to these types of posts in the past, I can only ASSUME he would feel the same way here. IF I'm wong, and I very well could be I'm sorry. I'm not trying to pass judgment on Hitech or his business.

As far as i'm concerned, leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone.

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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2005, 05:24:28 PM »
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As far as i'm concerned, leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone.


 But...but...but can we still pick on ya and tell ya you are teh suck on the BBS? :D
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2005, 05:39:32 PM »
perk bombs 500Lbs and over.............

if they make it home no perks are lost............
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2005, 07:02:56 PM »
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But...but...but can we still pick on ya and tell ya you are teh suck on the BBS? :D


Bahaha, you know the BB is da BB and AH is AH right?

Your answer lies within the question. :P

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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2005, 08:44:02 PM »
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perk bombs 500Lbs and over.............

if they make it home no perks are lost............


Only problem I can see is what if you get zapped after a successful pullout, by someone who was just waiting for such an event and maybe was loitering around for just an opportunity.

It's happened to me a time or two and I was trying to get clear, but I was shot up trying to avoid the bounce...so under the above criterion I lose my perk points, even though I made a successful drop....hmm good reason not to bother with bombs at all, then if same rules applies to bombers and I am trying to drop on target while trying to shoot down the pesky fighters making multiple passes at me and the drones...I get flamed and lose more perk points,...hmm good reason not to bother flying bombers......

So that leaves one with furballing....hmmm not much reason to keep paying for a subscription......

Can you see where it might go?

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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2005, 09:46:12 PM »
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I am newbie

I am trying to JABO and ground strafe, I am getting better, but I still auger sometimes.  I do not have perks anyway so IF they are taken it does not matter.  So I cannot fly the Jet bomber

I have seen a lot of posts about making penalties for this and that. In the last game I played folks wanted those kind of things also.

Beware the law of unintended consequences when changing the rules. basiically the player base needs to police themselves. Peer pressure will do more to straighten things out than rules. If you do not like they way guys fly then do not fly with them. Do not fly against them either.


If they attack the base you are at go to another, it is not like there are not any others  and if they up and do lame stuff at the base you are attacking, then attack another.  Pretty soon they will get bored attacking bases with no fight or flying around bases with no attackers. Believe me it works.  We use to just stop fighting the guys who were lame and and just let them shoot us down. They got bored real quick.  

Maybe someone could post a list of the lame stuff  ( with explinations) for us new guys.  A lot new guys will do it cause they see vets do it. If you do not call them on it then they think it is buisness as usual.


Aubrey, the only lame thing done around here is all the whining
about the way other people fly or what they fly.  Ignore it, this
kind of post starts every 15 minutes or so.  

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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2005, 12:55:25 AM »
Penalize a death with 1 perk but never drop total perks below zero. It will not prevent anybody from do what they want, just give them reason to stay alive.
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2005, 05:26:01 AM »
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so under the above criterion I lose my perk points, even though I made a successful drop....hmm good reason not to bother with bombs at all, then if same rules applies to bombers and I am trying to drop on target while trying to shoot down the pesky fighters making multiple passes at me and the drones...I get flamed and lose more perk points,...hmm good reason not to bother flying bombers......

So that leaves one with furballing....hmmm not much reason to keep paying for a subscription......

Can you see where it might go?



Suicide missions are as poor as suicide dive runs..........


the fact that the suicider is shot down cos he dived into a fighter swarm is as poor as the guy who slams it into the deck!

I would perk the bomb type not the bomb load.............eg if you chose 500's 1 perk, 1000's 2 perks, over 2000's 3 perks.

The way AH COADS load outs may not enable this easily (it refers to load outs as 0,1,2,3  and they may be all sorts of mixes of RL ordinance) in which case I would review the loadouts and perk all 3's to 1 perk or 4's to 2 perks.

The net result would be that suiciders would tend to choose

1)to use less effective ordinance to suicide with

2)to actually try to survive

This does have a bearing to historical circumstances (yeah I know its a game) ac rarely carried their max ordinance weights yet that is the rule in the MA rather than the exception.
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2005, 05:52:34 AM »
When you perk the loadout, you get the perks back when you bring home the bombs again?

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« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2005, 06:26:03 AM »
Perks Smerkz.
  Perks won`t enter the picture one way or the other.
  Amazes me that follks put any actual value to perks. If you play the game at all you are going to have more perks than could ever possibly be used.
  10,000 perks and 50 cents will buy you a phone call.
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2005, 06:45:04 AM »
Appropriate penalties are already imposed.