US Gives Up On Search For WMD's

[TheDudeDVant]

The fact that Saddam was harboring terrorists and had terrorist training camps in Iraq was enough for the US to go in. Bush never said there was a primary reason for going in.

Simply not true.. Unless you call the gen Iraqi population terrorist .. You know, like those guys that turned from Iraqi citizens into terrorist over night.. and then insurgents.. I'm certain eventually they will be CIR... Central Iraqi regulars.. or perhaps Iracong..

[Vudak]

Originally posted by GScholz
Who gets to decide which countries needs ... "purification"?

Do we have the right to force our ways on other people, and if so doesn't that justify others who have done the same?

And finally ... do you really believe that the US government opposed the UN and many influential allies, lied and cheated and finally invaded Iraq because they cared about the poor Iraqis, and wanted to help? If so then I suggest you look in the mirror. I think you might have "Naive, ignorant do-gooder" stamped on your forehead ... curtsey of the US government.

No I think the US Government went in there for their own selfish reasons.

I think a lot of Americans are happy we did it for these "do gooder" reasons.

And to answer your question as to who gets to decide which countries require "purification", I guess that would be the English Speaking World, with a few exceptions.  We and our allies are the only ones who seem to be willing to do something other than talk.

[lada]

Originally posted by wombatt
You should know by now we don't care what the stinking UN thinks.

its may you personal wish, but not official politic of your goverment.... check reality baby.

[lada]

Originally posted by GreenCloud
yes..new zealnad...finland and the rest of euro land would of been much bettr off with hilter as daddy...and it wouldnt bother me if you were in concentration camps...
Hell Sadom is a good guy too..
 

Ofcourse Saddam was great man of good habbits. Otherwise US would never ever  support him in his war agains Iran nor make bussines with him.... aaah i almost forget that SH had to be realy good men, since US has borrowed $4bil to SH in the past .....



Btw back to your post... do you expect  contemporary Euros to lick your balls because of WW2 ?

[patrone]

Originally posted by wombatt
You should know by now we don't care what the stinking UN thinks.

It seems to me that USA wants to be in everything, but not to follow any rules, just controll things.

Right now USA is infact thretning Bosnien Serbs: Telling them to complie and co-operate with the International wartribunal!

                   

Last time I heard USA didīnt even recognize it as a legal instance.

Talk about double standard.

[GreenCloud]

LOLOLO  

LMFAO..

so Soodma didnt support terrorits.

we can just use ..1 EASY example..

Him  sending checks to PLO families when thye blow themselves up.....You want more?..or were these 401k.plans?....LMFAo..

cluless dolts..




Adn Ball licking for euros>  becuase of what we did for them in ww2?...

maybe..but atleast soem FRIKN RESPECT..hell I dotn even need respect..JUST STFU..and stop bashing every chance you get...Im tired of of us being security for all the spineless nations....


Your countires remind me of the cheeses eatn surrender monkies..
 we can always count on you guys for one thing.........

"Your always there when you need us"


and whaaa..we were .."allies " with the commie bastard pinko-reds..at one time too....situations change.

Maybe if your euro papers werent voluntarily so frikn Biased you woudl see more then what is feed to you..YA YA..Atleast we have freedom of speech..and we get to see all wacko sides in our news..

Why do you think Libya..just said..OK..you can coem in now...WOW..what a friend Kahdafi is now..lolol..

BIG STICK....BIG STICK...You better protect that ***

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Gixer
LMAO, errr yes they were did and were expecting too, cripes I'm not going to go over that again. PRIMARY reason for the invasion not programes or intent.

That's such BS and just working on the fear tactics and war mongering.

Meanwhile in Iran.. They are busy adding the finishing touches to their 4,000 km range missile and warheads.
Since Iran is obviously far more advanced down this track and a threat to Israel why weren't they invaded instead?

I don't hate the Yanks I just think their leader is an idiot, who's stupid decisions effect us all.  And wonder how your so easily sucked into Bush admin  propergander as well. You must tape Fox news every night and believe in all that balanced reporting.

...-Gixer

Actually, thats not true, unless you're a US Senator and know more than we do. I suggest you read the congressional endorsement of the invasion.

Fear tactics? Why is it Gixer? Do you have such a short memory that you forget Israel PRE-EMPTIVELY attacked Egypt and Syrai, that your forget Israel PRE-EMPTYIVEL attacked Iraq's previous nuclear program. That you also forget the Iraq attacked both Kuwait and Iran. Calling me fear-mongering in the face of these facts? You seem very ignorant on such things.

Iran, yes thats a problem. Nobody is happy with what they're doing, however as far as a threat goes they are way down the list of luny countries. Iran while it has the odd extremist fruitloop is a pretty stable country and fairly westernised. The list of reasons for attacking Iran is far shorter than those of Iraq. For example, Iran did not use bio-chem weapons on its own people.

I'm not a fan of any US president. But I don't judge them based on the media circus. Bush isn't an idiot, his old man was a WW2 vet - the sorta guy that brings up good kids. Bush Jnr qualified on fast jets, you have to be more than average to do that - speaking of which what is your profession gixer?

Show me one US president that hasn't had one side of the political process calling him idiot. Its up to you whether you get sucked in by the media.

Theres a saying, you can please some of the people all of the time, and you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can never please salamanders like you

[patrone]

Originally posted by Vulcan

Do you have such a short memory that you forget Israel PRE-EMPTIVELY attacked Egypt and Syrai, that your forget Israel PRE-EMPTYIVEL attacked Iraq's previous nuclear program. That you also forget the Iraq attacked both Kuwait and Iran.

UN sucks, they couldīnt prevent the attacks on Egypt and Syria from Israel.
You see, every resulotion against Israel put forward in security council was Vetod by USA.

UN sucks, because they couldīnt prevent a war between Iraq and Iran.
Saddam, sponsered by USA, attacked Iran. USA supplied the gas wich was used both against the Kurds and during the Iraq-Iranian war. Of course, their "Ally" turned the blind eye towards it.

USA trained Muhajedeen to fight the Soviets in Afganistan.

Do I have to mention the "Contras"?

Then suddenly, it all backfires and you guys shout "911" and take this as an excause to secure your future oilsupply.

And now you end up loosing another War. Will you guys ever learn?

[wombatt]

Well I'm not crazy about this war but I do not see us losing it either.

[patrone]

Originally posted by wombatt
Well I'm not crazy about this war but I do not see us losing it either.

It was lost in the very moment you guys started it. But I bet there will be no end to the damages it caused.
It actully changed the history of USA being the "good guys". Even if Nam proved oposite, I think the world still thought there was good intentions. This case was way to clear.

And..........hahahahahahaha (not funny really).... your children will ask ya how you ever could put a vote on such a moron as Dubya, just like german children asked their parents how Hitler came to power (by voting).
And you will say "I always been a Democrate, I voted Kerry"

[wombatt]

I think for alot of people I know for me for instance I voted for the lesser of two idiots.

[SaburoS]

Originally posted by wombatt
You should know by now we don't care what the stinking UN thinks.

Uhm, the US is part of the UN.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
Simply not true.. Unless you call the gen Iraqi population terrorist .. You know, like those guys that turned from Iraqi citizens into terrorist over night.. and then insurgents.. I'm certain eventually they will be CIR... Central Iraqi regulars.. or perhaps Iracong..

There were at least 2 terrorist training camps in Iraq, that too has been well documented here on these boards in other threads. Not our fault you refuse to believe it. It has also been well documented that Saddam gave money to PLO families for suicide bombers, and that he gave shelter, food, medical aid to terrorists.

Saddam, sponsered by USA, attacked Iran. USA supplied the gas wich was used both against the Kurds and during the Iraq-Iranian war.

The US sponsored the war against Iran? Show some proof. Did we back him? Yeah, but we also helped the Iranians. Btw I dont agree with helping both sides in a conflict like that. As far as supplying the gas to Saddam to use on the Iranians and his own people.....show some proof. All you will find is that we SOLD him chemicals that had a dual use. All information that I could find was that we sold the chemicals to Iraq with the understanding that they werent to be used in making chemical weapons.

[Staga]

So how did you help Iranians in their fight against Iraq?
By shooting down a passenger plane?

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Staga
So how did you help Iranians in their fight against Iraq?
By shooting down a passenger plane?

Google for the Iran-Contra scandal. Dont recall the specifics off hand, but I do know that Iran got much needed spare parts for their fleet of F-14 Tomcats. Profits from those covert sales were used to help fund the Contras in Nicaragua iirc.