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Offline Flit

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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2005, 08:47:36 PM »
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i think many are forgetting AH is a Downloadable game.

not a 700MB compressed CDROM boxed game.

there are comprimises to be made for accessibility.

if i want the graphics of Doom3 i get the 3 CD's (over 2100MB compressed) and install it.

you want to DL 2 GB to play a game?


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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2005, 08:47:42 PM »
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go play that then instead of bad-mouthing the most realistic flight sim yet.



Most realistic flight sim yet? You must mean for a combat sim and refering to just the flight models surely? Even then it's dumbed down quite alot.



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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2005, 09:14:32 PM »
Sure, the models aren't as detailed as Il-2 (yet. it's getting there), but the flight modelling is still much better. It's like you're actually flying the plane...

In Il-2, it's like your in a virtual reality ride, sans the simulated feel that the moving seats tend to give.

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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2005, 09:30:22 PM »
I gotta disagree, Fruda. I think IL2 has a great feel to the game. With the wind turbulence and FM of IL2, I sure as heck feel like I'm flying.

Hopefully HiTech will be able to improve on what he's got. You guys can get defensive about your favorite game all you want, but face the facts. Most of the graphics are third rate when it comes to ground textures, vehicles, and the fire.

I get immersed in this game just as much as everyone else that loves it, and it's not the graphics that have brought us to this game. It's the thrill of fighting an all out war with PEOPLE on the ground and in the air. IL2 doesn't give you that feeling you get when you log on and say "hey" to a squaddie. This game is a blast to play and highly addictive.

That said, graphics are left wanting. Hopefully the graphics will be improved greatly over the next year or so, but rebuilding an already working massive multiplayer online game is rough stuff! I'm sure HiTech knows where he wants to go with this, and he probably gets frustrated about a lot of things more than any of us know. I'm going to bet he knows how far graphics have come along these days.

Spitfire, if you want to know what the deal is with the graphics, why don't you shoot HiTech an email and ask him? Posting it on the boards sounds more like a whining or bashing than constructive criticism.

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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2005, 10:20:36 PM »
funny, for an ugly graphic model and resource hogging game , i see 400+ on nightly , man HT really blew it with AH2 .... baaaa

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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2005, 10:29:31 PM »
Ain't that a purdy picture.

Wonder how she flies with more than 8 people at a time.
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2005, 10:31:45 PM »
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So, if I had to choose whether HTC devoted its meager programming resources on graphics or gameplay/interface elements, I choose gameplay everytime. AH does not likely generate enough recurring income to hire a large programming team and remain financially solvent. HTC has to prioritize its efforts on those aspects of the game that will have the greatest impact for the players and draw the most long-term subscribers. I don't think eye candy has the kind of long-lasting, high customer fidelity draw that would make it being the primary focus economically worthwhile...

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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2005, 10:53:27 PM »
let me reiterate:
the issue here is not just subpar graphics compared to other sims on the market, it's also poor graphics and rather heavy system requirements.

the graphics were better even in Warbirds.

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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2005, 11:16:11 PM »
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Did you play with up to 750 people in a massive arena?


First, I can't remember the last time I saw 750 people in AH2 or more than 30-40 planes/veh's in one area.

Second, ww2 online has on an avg 1500 players{2000} on the weekends and the graphics and ground detail is 3 times that of AH2.
Of course ww2 online has nothing on AH2 in the way of flight models and air combat.

There is a flip side to every game, box set or mmog. I have, just like some many others hoped for a facelift in the graphics dept and a step away from DirectX 7 graphics.

I too became let down by the fact we were instructed to "upgrade" our systems to take advantage of these new "updated" graphics and effects. I have yet to see these, but who knows what HTC has up their sleeves.

It is what it is

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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2005, 12:43:45 AM »
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First, I can't remember the last time I saw 750 people in AH2 or more than 30-40 planes/veh's in one area.

Second, ww2 online has on an avg 1500 players{2000} on the weekends and the graphics and ground detail is 3 times that of AH2.
Of course ww2 online has nothing on AH2 in the way of flight models and air combat.

There is a flip side to every game, box set or mmog. I have, just like some many others hoped for a facelift in the graphics dept and a step away from DirectX 7 graphics.

I too became let down by the fact we were instructed to "upgrade" our systems to take advantage of these new "updated" graphics and effects. I have yet to see these, but who knows what HTC has up their sleeves.

It is what it is


Look at the log in screen next time It clearly shows that 750 players can be in the MA.
Now I was just in the MA earlier tonight and there was 500 people in there .
Not bad if ya ask me.

And you have to admit that HTC does provide really good customer service.
I mean there only an e mail or phone call away and scuzzy or HT or who ever takes the call will work there butt's off to help you.

LOL last time I checked people waited for months for an update from oleg for IL2 FB.

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« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2005, 01:13:38 AM »
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LOL last time I checked people waited for months for an update from oleg for IL2 FB.


Mr Black,

Did you ever check IL2 website? It gets update every Friday with latest screenshots. When did HT gave update (screenshots)?


I can’t compare IL2 with AH2 ATM, but according to Oleg BoB will have MMP. Then comparing can be done :-)

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« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2005, 01:17:50 AM »
All I have to say is HTC keeps putting out updates, and I don't have to keep buying new box versions.

Good Deal in my book :aok
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2005, 01:25:47 AM »
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Originally posted by JB73
i think many are forgetting AH is a Downloadable game.

not a 700MB compressed CDROM boxed game.

there are comprimises to be made for accessibility.

if i want the graphics of Doom3 i get the 3 CD's (over 2100MB compressed) and install it.

you want to DL 2 GB to play a game?


But then again these days people are downloading games, patches, and mods 500mb-1gig all the time. This excuse is outdated. With todays net connection file size shouldn't matter.
Plus there's enough friends and nice people to help burn cds for the small group stuck on 56k in these situations.

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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2005, 01:43:10 AM »
IL2 series / MS Flight simulator series when first out: $30-50 per game retail

Aces High when first out: No charge PLUS all upgrades / patches are free for life.

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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2005, 01:44:00 AM »
HTC is doing a great job with what and who they have to work with.  I hope they continue their dedication to this game.  I would hate to see this game end due to them getting tired of people always bad mouthing their work.
  HTC  !

Thanks for making this game and keep up the good work.
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