HTC should hire programmers...

[Flayed1]

Umm I'm still stuck on a dial up and am out in the farm fields here and alot of my squad mates are in similar situations. Heck I can't even get cable out here.  So as far as downloading that big of file um well it sux. It took me 10+ hours to download one of waffles latest sound packs. and as far as someone burning me a cd, it would take it just as long to get here as it would for my 56K to download it.

  So I think it still matters if the AH file is large or small.

 

[moot]

This thread is full of contradictions.

[gatt]

Supporting AH team since 1999, however I agree with those who ask for better graphics. AH2 is a step forward but still not enough, IMHO.

Downloads are not a problem today. Probably, you can even let people choose which files to d/l depending on the graphic resolution you want (at least for cockpits and planes, maybe). The average modem is not a 5K/sec one.

We were told that the average CPU/GPU was/is a 1Ghz with a GeForce2. Dont think so. BTW, even my P4-3.2 and my 6800GT are not able tu run AH2 with everything on. However I can run Pacific Fighters with perfect settings.  

Cockpits are the things I really dont like here. Some are really 1997' style. Customers could design and paint them. I'm in the beta test team of Target Tobruk (Targetware) and I can assure you that those cockpits are simply beautiful and made by players and easily downloadable.

AH2 is still the best, I'd love much better cockpits, better clouds and terrains, tho.

[SC-Sp00k]

Originally posted by thebest1
go play that then instead of bad-mouthing the most realistic flight sim yet.

Puhleaseeeeeeeeeeee.  I've no ill will against HTC or AH, but for gods sake man. what are you smoking?

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by spitfiremkv
I'm not even going to compare AH2 with IL2 sturmovik.
Here's screenshots and reviews of  JSF, a sim released at the end of 1997, which ran fine, detail set to high, on my 133mhz Pentium with a crappy video card.
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  I, for one, among many others appreciate the no camparison to IL2.
  AH= Home  IL2= teh suck
  Take that screenie and print it out, then hang it on the wall and you can get the immense pleasure from it that you are seeking because you will never be able to find that kind of boredom in AH.

[Tilt]

What TexMurphy  said........

HTC resources must be stretched updating stuff to what the engine is capable of and with folk wanting new rides HTC will be balancing ride development with eye candy development.

Then guess what? the old rides are being upgraded for moving cockpit controls and smoother 3d shapes..............


and then Hitech will be working on TOD.   Thats a lot of balls in the air at once trying to please most of the people most of the time.............

For me the priorities are terrain and rides.

Whilst showing us what can be done the actual terrain rendering is poor (presently) IMO and creates an environment which is not what it could be.  Hopefully the new TE linked with an object editor will allow the community to pour a massive resource into this gap but we still await the finished tools.


More rides give players more options re gameplay that expands the variety of experiences on offer.

Fancy cockpits with moving bits. Well, after terrain the cockpit is the most visually prominent feature. By all means add more shape to the 3d environment.........as for moving throttles, controls etc............well I do not know what resources are consumed supplying these.........if it was significant I would place it lower in the priority list.

Revising 3d models on existing models to latest standards. Well OK but I would set a time table say 1 fighter (shape) a month with a picking priority list based upon MA usage.

TOD?  We the players do not really know what to expect yet and we all have differing "wish" criteria for what it might be. If its going to do for ACFS's what Everquest or Eve does for other MMOG's then its a massive undertaking IMO.

[lada]

naa AH2 graphic sux

Ah1 graphic rulez

[rshubert]

Originally posted by spitfiremkv
Let's face it: for the system the game demands to run smoothly, the graphics suck big time.
I'm not even going to compare AH2 with IL2 sturmovik.
Here's screenshots and reviews of  JSF, a sim released at the end of 1997, which ran fine, detail set to high, on my 133mhz Pentium with a crappy video card.




 

Perhaps, just maybe, if ou actually paid for the game, HTC could afford to hire artists and programmers.  Since I read in another thread that you don't play and/or pay, STFU.

Some (not all) of the worst critics of this game don't play it.

Respectfully, of course.

shubie

[Howitzer]

You guys also need to look at what Furious posted.  A lot of what this game does is over the network.  You aren't playing a 2GB installation of Call of Duty or Quake 3 where tons of things are loaded locally before being sent over the net.  

Now personally, I think I've played a sample of just about everything, and there is a reason I'm still playing AH.  Doesn't seem to get dull for me... It probably won't till I get tired of flying all the planes, and I don't see that coming any time soon.  Sure I've played games online with 1000s of people, and there is something to be said for that, but I only played that game for a couple months... just past 2 years now for AH (I think).  I can get the graphics anywhere... its the gameplay I love  

Also, how many of these other games had a development staff of approx. 5 people?  I work in the software world... that would be a nightmare.  Architecture, design, coding, modelling, testing, marketing, and production with 5 people?  EEK.   Big to HTC crew just for showing up to work on a daily basis.  

[palef]

Originally posted by spitfiremkv
let me reiterate:
the issue here is not just subpar graphics compared to other sims on the market, it's also poor graphics and rather heavy system requirements.

the graphics were better even in Warbirds.

So go and play Warbirds.

Bye.

[BUG_EAF322]

the system requirements just don't suit the graphics.

but i understand this will be better in the next release.

member since 1.03 here never quitted but i wont cheerlead. critic is always better to make things progress

i like il2 also btw  i hear most real pilots like the il2 fm better.

still i get back to AH most of the time just because its better gameplay.

[palef]

Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
the system requirements just don't suit the graphics.

but i understand this will be better in the next release.

member since 1.03 here never quitted but i wont cheerlead. critic is always better to make things progress

i like il2 also btw  i hear most real pilots like the il2 fm better.

still i get back to AH most of the time just because its better gameplay.

Absolutely. Constructive criticism is always the best path if a player and subscriber wants to help improve a commercial product. However, popping into a public forum, the wrong forum I may point out, and crapping publicly all over several aspects of the game, is nothing but destructive whining.

Try this with Oleg on Maddox's board and see how long it takes for him to turn up and rip you a new one. About 240ms usually.

HTC ARE approachable. Email them directly with your concerns as well as discussing them publicly in the correct forum, and you've gone a long way toward providing constructive feedback.

This thread is just BS.

Most of the people I've ever bumped into on IL2 servers have been elitist snotbags, who scream cheat if you use even the most basic ACM, or actually manage to shoot someone down before your ammo load runs out. For that reason I can't be bothered experiencing the "joys" of the better graphics and flight model in IL2. The people and gameplay are better here.

[wombatt]

Originally posted by palef
Absolutely. Constructive criticism is always the best path if a player and subscriber wants to help improve a commercial product. However, popping into a public forum, the wrong forum I may point out, and crapping publicly all over several aspects of the game, is nothing but destructive whining.

Try this with Oleg on Maddox's board and see how long it takes for him to turn up and rip you a new one. About 240ms usually.

HTC ARE approachable. Email them directly with your concerns as well as discussing them publicly in the correct forum, and you've gone a long way toward providing constructive feedback.

This thread is just BS.

Most of the people I've ever bumped into on IL2 servers have been elitist snotbags, who scream cheat if you use even the most basic ACM, or actually manage to shoot someone down before your ammo load runs out. For that reason I can't be bothered experiencing the "joys" of the better graphics and flight model in IL2. The people and gameplay are better here.

Well said M8

[Fruda]

Originally posted by palef
Most of the people I've ever bumped into on IL2 servers have been elitist snotbags, who scream cheat if you use even the most basic ACM, or actually manage to shoot someone down before your ammo load runs out. For that reason I can't be bothered experiencing the "joys" of the better graphics and flight model in IL2. The people and gameplay are better here.

The flight models are more detailed in Il-2... However, our flight models are more realistic. Take into account that it doesn't feel like you're flying on the moon in AH2.

For example: The P-47 rolls, accelerates, and climbs WAY too fast in Il-2. In addition to that, it retains "E" far too well. All of the planes are like this, but this is the one that sticks out the most.

[spitfiremkv]

fruda:

the P47 has been noted for its fast roll,a cceleration and good rate of climb (the initial zoom, I don't think it can sustain an oustanding rate of climb unless it's the paddle bladed version)
go read Robert Johnson's 'Thunderbolt' if you don't believe me.


rshubert: I did pay for this game for a while, and I quit partly because of the things I mentioned in my first post in this thread. IMO AH2 has not improved enough on those aspects of the game I dislike that I feel compelled to subscribe again.
If the gameplay and graphics improve significantly (IE TOD is released), then I shall start paying for it again.