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Offline Pollock

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« on: January 17, 2005, 07:36:34 AM »
My wifes motherboard went poof.  So time to upgrade for me.

I have read the many stickies posted by Bloom 25 and they help tremendously.  The criteria for this pc revolves around aces high and that is it.  My goal is no FR drops below 30 at 1280 X 1024 res. I would like to keep the budget under $250.00.

I have experience in overclocking with softswitching through the bios.

1st pc used Asus A7V133 with 850 Athlon Thunderbird, got it too 1.3GHZ smoothly with a big noisy fan. This one went to the wife over 2 years ago.
(I did not like the issues with the via chipset at the time)


2nd pc (my current I used an ASUS P4B266 with a P4 Northwood 1.6GHZ. This baby runs stable  overclocked to 2.4GHZ with the stock heatsink and fan.

I can go either AMD or Intel at this point, but I would like this one to last me at least a year for playing Aces High.

Here are the parts that would carry over:

Supercase
400watt psu
2 Corsair Value Select 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200
ATI Radeon 9700 pro 128meg
dvd burner
80 gig hd udma 7200 rpm or 60gig

Thanks in advance gents...
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Offline eagl

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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2005, 10:09:25 AM »
Regardless of the specific parts you get, for gaming you want an athlon 64.  Check out the other threads in here for some good options.
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2005, 11:38:37 AM »
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Offline Hajo

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2005, 11:58:40 AM »
Pollock

Check  BZboyz.com for great mobo cpu combos.

Athlon 64 is the way to go.....along with ASUS mobo.

You get the fan with the above combos....get the AMD approved one...you can upgrade easily to a better fan.
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Offline Pollock

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2005, 12:08:06 PM »
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Offline Pollock

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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2005, 12:39:17 PM »
OOPS LINKS DONT WORK:


AMD:

Abit KV8 PRO K8T800 85.00 at newegg
AMD Athlon 64 2800+ 512kb l2 cache 128.00 at new egg.

INTEL:

ASUS P4P800-E DELUXE  75.00 at newegg

P4 2.4C GHZ 800mhz       137.00 at newegg

What's do you guys think is the better FR increase.
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Offline wombatt

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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2005, 01:17:18 PM »
Asus P4P800 motherboard
Itell P4 2.4 that you then Overclock to 3.0 @ 1000 FSB

I am running this set up and am getting great results in Ah2
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Offline whels

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2005, 01:24:34 PM »
AMD 64  or FX  CPU, the fastest u can afford.
any  AGP/939 socket  MB.

atleast AMD64 3800 or FX 53s
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Offline Hajo

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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2005, 01:34:42 PM »
Pollock

Using the ASUS K8V SE Deluxe mobo
Athlon64 3400
1 gig PC3200 (DDR 400) RAM
ATI Radeon9800 Pro
SoundBlaster Live 5.1
80gb Western Digital HD 8MB buffer (in IDE config)
Via K8T800 Chipset (with new Hyperion Drivers)
400 Watt power supply
Windows2K Pro OS

just built this system saturday.

Frame rates HOLDING at 85 with 1280X1024 32bit res.
FSAA at 6Xs' plus AGPX8

My monitors refresh rate at that res is limited to 85, can't get better then that...but at 85...who cares? ;)
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2005, 04:10:10 PM »
I reckommend the Athlon64 also. I own a desktop 3000+ and a laptop 3700+ and have nothing but good things to say about them.

AH2 plays quite nicely on a laptop with 3700+, R9700 and 1 Gig of ram. :p
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Offline Pollock

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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2005, 04:10:27 PM »
Hajo.

your system sounds like a good one but it is over my budget.  It sounds like for the extra 150.00 dollars no overclocing is required.

Wombatt,

What memory, heatsink, and fan are you using?

Eagler,

Man oh man does that tigerdirect deal sound tempting, but  the cost is too much.

I read the hardocp article to make the AMD suggestion.  I need to see how safe the overclocking is for the P4.

This is good community keep the suggestions coming.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2005, 05:44:35 PM »
I am using Mushkin LvL 2 3500 BH5 chips
Heatsink is a Thermalright XP-120 It has a 120mm fan on it.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2005, 06:53:05 PM »
I wonder about that Ram.  You was at an FSB of 333 with it before.  Now that you'll be o'clocking starting at 400, what will that memory do?
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2005, 07:30:50 PM »
EBGB,

Are you inquiring about my ram?  I bought it before Christmas from newegg.  My current MOBO will only go to whatever pc2100 runs and no higher.

I can probably still return the ram to newegg, the price was right at $140.00.  All of my overclocking experience has been through upping the clock frequency and core voltage.  My current clock is set to 150mhz and core voltage is right at 6.25V, 1volt higher than stock for the cpu.  This also wdone with stock cooling.  The ram before that was 256X2 Crucial pc2100.

what would be a decent ram to overclock with?

According to newegg posts this ram does a decent job with moderate overclocking.  My goal would be 3GHZ with a P4, or with AMD I believe the cpu runs slower so I am guessing around 2.4 GHZ to acheive a good gaming system.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2005, 11:15:30 AM »
A word to the wise about overclocking memory or cpu.

Most do it because or can say that they are overclocking.  Fact is that no matter how well one cools the component you shorten its' life simply by directing more voltage to it then it was intended to handle......sorta like trying to put 6 gallons of water into a 5 gallon bucket....only what is overclocked will handle it for  a shorter term then desired.

Buy something you DON"T have to overclock.  You'll do better in the long term.
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