China/Taiwan

[Raider179]

Originally posted by JB88


someone please remind me how many thermonuclear detonations it takes to achieve global fallout conditions?


 

Wont matter to much the number...any signifigant number detonations on the west side of the U.S. will lead to fallout all over the country. And as I said they have nuclear armed subs so the entire U.S. IS a potential target.

[JB88]

what was that old movie with jason robards where the bomb went off and he saw the mushroom cloud but lived to tell about it?  cant for the life of me remember what it was, but im pretty sure it must be accurate.

i remember another one called "threads" that was a bit more horrific.  it was an english production if i remember correctly.

[GtoRA2]

War with China would be a disaster.

MAYBE on a small scale naval engagement we could win, but a land war with China would be bad.


We had better weapons in Korea but human wave attacks still pushed us back.


The war going nuke would be bad for everyone, nukes are not a viable weapon of war if anyone wants to live.

[Charon]

Sounds like Atlas missle level technology (Surprised actually) and I believe the subs are noisy as hell. But, it just takes one hit to spell a total human and economic disaster in the US. Even the though of vaporizing one US city is a pretty big deterrent for the US, regardless of the ability to counterstrike.

Conventionally, China is making a great effort to upgrade its forces, but the naval focus of an invasion makes that much easier to counter by Taiwan. IMO PRC is likely uparming just to keep its threat and intimidation potential hight.

Charon

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Raider179
Anyone else get the feeling china is waiting for the U.S. to get tired of fighting in Iraq and is gonna make a move on Taiwan?

Nope not at all. China could take Taiwan anytime it want's but it's better of economically at the moment with it there. Their busy opening up direct flight routes and increasing trade at the moment.



...-Gixer

[Gixer]

Originally posted by NUKE
Are you kidding? China can't even take Taiwan. We would decimate China and they couldn't touch us.

Nuke you are a complete idiot and obviously have never been to China, have any understanding at all of the country,it's people,culture and military.

Your opinions on US v anyone else are immature and I wonder if that's actually a current picture of you instead of one 30 or 40 years ago.




...-Gixer

[Gixer]

By the way it seems Britain is supporting the European lifting of the Arms  Embargo against China so there's no doubt that will take place. And given China's economy,growth and wealth these day's I can imagine their shopping list will be rather big.




...-Gixer

[Raider179]

Charon they still have diesel's that when they go electric are almost impossible to detect. Gixer good point!

[JB88]

dear santra craws.

i rould rike a shieny new set of intercontinetowl baristic missrals.

i rould rike a new submerine and a bland new air force.

i rould aslo rike a weel beeg freet of boats.

sank you velly much,

china

[Raider179]

88 that is horrible...funny as hell but horrible lol

[JB88]

<--- bad bad man.

i wonder what it sounds like when they do impressions of us.

do you think that there any chinese on chinese BB's saying....

"we could trake rat wotten unitred strates wiff owr barristic missrels...rey roundnt even be rable to ruch us."

god.  i hope not.

[john9001]

korea dosn't count ,it was a UN action and  truman would not commit enough forces to win, he was afraid of china and russia, truman thought russia was going to invade europe and kept most of the US forces there( including most of the F86's)

the US buys 50% of china's exports, why would china want to go to war with their biggest customer? you people are still living in the last century.

china/taiwan will be handled similar to hong kong.

[Raubvogel]

Nuke is more right than you people are giving him credit for. Numbers do not an effective army make. In the Korean conflict they may have sufficed, but today's war is much faster, more lethal, and more technology dependent. All those fancy gizmos the US Armed Forces has are terrific force multipliers. Our armor and air power could engage and destroy theirs before they ever 1) saw it coming 2) could do a damn thing about it. Conventional vs. conventional China can't touch us. They have the sheer numbers, but their logisitics and tech lag far behind the US. The US is the only nation that has the logistics in place to project its forces effectively and supply those forces.

China vs. Taiwan....dunno....but it'd be a helluva fight. If China established a foothold on Taiwan it would be over. Establishing that foothold would be another story. Taiwan has lots of fancy gizmos too

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
War with China would be a disaster.

MAYBE on a small scale naval engagement we could win, but a land war with China would be bad.

We had better weapons in Korea but human wave attacks still pushed us back.

The war going nuke would be bad for everyone, nukes are not a viable weapon of war if anyone wants to live.

Actually our technology advantage is much wider now than in Korea..

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Gixer
Nuke you are a complete idiot and obviously have never been to China, have any understanding at all of the country,it's people,culture and military.

Your opinions on US v anyone else are immature and I wonder if that's actually a current picture of you instead of one 30 or 40 years ago.




...-Gixer

Personal attack? what's your problem?

Why would I have had to been to China to know that they couldn't touch the US with conventional forces?


Skuzzy, you around to see this this guy?