Author Topic: Lets get this straight... (Read 1565 times)

g00b · « **Reply #15 on:** January 25, 2005, 08:51:30 PM »

Then they can do whatever the he** they want. That was my point.

If you grab a buff and fly it an enemy base, you need to make the decision if you want to help your team or not.

If you choose NOT, than nothing I say will make any differance, and no you don't have to tell me how little it means to you. This is for those who are genuinely un-aware.

Either some people are not aware that what they are doing is detrimental to the goals of their countryman or they are doing it malicously(which I doubt very much). So I presume it's mostly that people are unaware. I was simply performing a public service for the people who want to play this game more or less as was intended, which of course includes me.

Is it too much to expect to be able rationally discuss strategy and tactics on the forums?

g00b

Sikboy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2005, 08:54:34 PM »

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Originally posted by g00b

Is it too much to expect to be able rationally discuss strategy and tactics on the forums?

g00b

You asked for comments. What comments have you received that you do not feel are rational?

-Sik

38ruk · « **Reply #17 on:** January 25, 2005, 08:56:20 PM »

Goob your post is a good one and more people should read it, i cant count the number of time i have come to freshly captured base that was a great kick off point for an attack , to find it useless ... i mean totally porked , even the sheep were sheered 38

g00b · « **Reply #18 on:** January 25, 2005, 09:11:26 PM »

"what, this thread again?

oh well...."

^Pointless drivel

"Maybe....
let people play for fun the way they like to????"

^Pointless drivel

"Do people really spend time contemplating the proper etiquette of killing inanimate objects?

Is there a proper method to destroying static objects at undefended bases?

Isn't the objective really just to avoid human v human competition by denying other members the ability to even have fun?

Do folks really need a list of 'dos and don'ts' in this regard?

Here's a 'don't' for you.

Don't waste your time on the stupid stuff, grab your favorite plane, head to the nearest gaggle of enemy and have fun. Maybe you will be less worried about who or who didn't suicide that tool shed."

^Pointless drivel

"And if one doesn't agree? "

^Pointless drivel

Not one of these posts even attempted to provide constructive criticism or comment.

Seriously, read those posts and tell me there was any sort of rational, logical discussion going on.

Yes you have a right to do whatever you want in game or flame me any way you want on these forums and blah blah, blah...

Big f***ing deal. Why bother responding to a post when all you're going to do is thump your chest?

Now... if anyone has a constructive comment or criticism, I'm all ears. Where does radar fit on that list of priorities?

g00b

WMLute · « **Reply #19 on:** January 25, 2005, 09:24:12 PM »

goob's 100% correct on this one. Can't count how many fh's i have seen dropped, yet said buffs left the vh/town full up. MUCH easier to cap a field of planes taking off, than gv's rolling.

Here's how I read it.

1.the buff guys are trying to help, but don't understand which target they should be hitting.

2.the buff guys are not any good in fighters, and drop fh's due to their own "lack" of ability 'cause they see the FH's as the most serious threat.

3. the buff guys are just being jerks. they dont' want anybody to have fun, and like ruining everything for everybody else.

Most of the time, I feel the buff guys dropping FH's at capped fields fall into catagory #1.

There ARE some times where killing FH's are a good thing. If you are attacking a field, and tons of nme are upping from a nearby field, drop the FH's at the NEARBY field to prevent them from saving the field you are takin'.

OR, your field is being swarmed, so you drop the FH's of the field they are upin' at and save your field from being took.

OR even, the field you are attacking has a huge amount of enemy taking off, and you don't quite have the #'s to stop them. Let's say you have 10 fighters near/around the field, and 20 bad guys are consistantly taking off. I COULD see that as being the rare case of needing to drop the FH's. This one is a tough call, and I feel the buff guys should ASK as they approach if the FH's should be dropped or not. IF it's needed, drop the vh, THEN go for the FH's. VH is a much greater threat.

Not trying to pass judgment on what you do, or how to spend your $15.00/month. Maybe you just like killing FH's and don't know any better. BUT if you are a buff pilot, and we have #'s over the nme field, don't kill the FH's. If you WANT to help, drop the VH and TOWN. THAT would help out the "War effort" the most.

As far as killing the strat objects, barraks should only be dropped at a field attacking yours, NOT the field you are attacking. Ord shoudl be dropped if you are attcking an enemy field only if the attack is launching from a CV. Add to this... ALSO DROP THE S/B. When attacking from a cv, I put S/B's as high on the list as vh. Prob. higher than ack if the cv is in close.

If you HAVE to blow something up, and the VH is down, why not drop on the town? For the unskilled jaboist's amongst us, it's far easier to blow up a town building. Don't really even need to aim that much.

Mostly, you see new ish guys dropping FH's. Personally, I feel the just don't understand that they are not really helping, and eventually will learn what targets they should be going for.

(edit) radar shoudl be dropped after vh/ack, if you are being "sneaky" and hitting a field noe. otherwise it's not very high on my list of "things to kill"

Wotan · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2005, 09:29:56 PM »

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Gee Wotan, if you were to ask yourself, "Why would I redundantly use an inanimate object such as my computer to have to add my $.02...concerning this thread......."

These are open forums, not private disussions and as such anyone is capable of offering their '2 cents'. You certainly felt free to offer yours even though the majority of your post (as quoted above) has nothing to do with the topic.

Goob started a thread to 'set things straight'. My questions are directly on topic.

Don't start a discussion in an open forum then demand that everyone who replies should agree with you or with your premise.

Some folks may think they don't need goob to 'set them straight'.

My criticism is constructive and directly on topic. No one needs General Goob to be their strategic planner.

Black Sheep · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2005, 09:54:17 PM »

Whoa! tan!

The first half is my observation and opinion yes, but the second part was to acknowledge Goob's idea, which actually, is a decent method. So I was more to the subject then you say. I'd be interested to hear why an endless gaggle of furballing planes makes better sense

but to each his own.

Wotan · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:05:58 PM »

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I'd be interested to hear why an endless gaggle of furballing planes makes better sense

Isn't the answer obvious? In the thick of the fight you don't have time to worry about who did or didn't kill that tool shed. I said as much in my reply to the original poster.

But again you stray off topic.

Are you just bored with the 25k climb out in your P-51? Frequent alt-tabbing to make a reply?

If you just want someone to talk to try range channel.

Black Sheep · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:17:18 PM »

Whatever makes you feel better. I guess when I say to each his own style, that's off topic.

LOL, with 7000+ posts, you shouldn't be asking ME about someone to talk to

And thanks for the flame; I expected as much, just with less chest thumping.

Black Sheep · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:24:12 PM »

Waiting for that witty retort.... still.... waiting......

Black Sheep · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:32:42 PM »

Organization is the key to Goob's post. And nobody is gonna play the way I, you, he, she, it wants. I like to mix it up in the MA. Bombers, Jabo's, vulching, furballing, tanking, spawncamping. If I could only do one, I wouldn't play.

doobs · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:42:55 PM »

Goob,
your right on, most organized squads (whatever country) know this, your posting to the carousel crowd. which you will find out to be a waste of time, as they seem to have no respect to anybody that doesn't share there opinion of the game.

but a good post to the new to semi new fliers.
BTW prepared to have this thread hijacked. you will see.

GooB wish u clear skies and steady enemys ~~sir~~

Wotan · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:43:54 PM »

I have 7000 posts over 4 years mostly in private forums, I also another 5000 posts as 'batz'. I have close to 2000 in the Kurland Scenario Development threads alone. Not to mention Bob/Okinawa/Slot/Neimen and 3 squad forums etc...

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Whatever makes you feel better. I guess when I say to each his own style, that's off topic.

It's not about 'feeling better', You can't seem to follow a point form A to B any better then you can follow a thread.

What's is the point of your replies. We are not friends exchanging bantor just for the heck of it. What's so hard about following the topic.

You made a point to comment about my '2 cents' yet here you are rambling on about nothing, I would guess you are up to about buck .50 and you have said nothing.

Flaming? Chest thumping?

Butch up a little. With your pointless and off topic replies what else am I to think?

doobs · « **Reply #28 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:50:07 PM »

dude 12000 posts in 4 years, 3000 a year, almost 300 a day.
whooooaaaaaa

turn off the computer, and back away from the moniter, thats it deep breathes we can do this.

Wotan · « **Reply #29 on:** January 25, 2005, 10:51:26 PM »

Nice math skills... 300 posts a day? Public school?

wotan = 7044 (4.28 posts per day)

Batzl = 4792 (6.59 posts per day)

See if you can add that up.