LMAO. Today's conservatives would have been deemed far left liberals in Jefferson's time.
And today's liberals would have probably been considered complete nutjobs.
We, both the left and the right have become more liberal in the last 200+ years not less.
Imagine how the debates of today would have faired in the time of Jefferson.
For example.
Try telling them back then you want to make gay marriage legal and you would have been laughed at.
Same thing if you wanted all references to God taken out of schools and government places.
Try complaining then that you didn't get a job because of your nationality, race, sex, or religion and the response would have probably been along the lines of "So what"
Far as Im concerned both the diehard left and diehard right are pretty much braindead or at the very least brainwashed.
Each side being so self righteous and so blinded by their own party ideals they refuse to see or give credit for anything the other side says or does.
Neither side would like who was in office regardless of who is was so long as he wasn't from their party.
And BOTH sides are dragging us down.
Common sense is the least common of the senses in each of these camps.
I often feel one side takes a position over another side not because it right but simply so they can oppose the other side
As far as the State of the Union Speech I thought he did pretty good. And honestly I dont remember hearing him stumble at all in his delivery
I agreed with most of what he had to say particularly about Social Security and when he abandoned his Axis of Evil approach with regard to Iran. He separated That government from its people and addressed them as two separate entities.
Which is something I thought was a huge mistake in his original Axis of Evil speech when he just said "Iran" and didn't distinguish between the regime and its people. When its people at that time were becoming largely pro American.
The two most memorable moments were however the Iraqi Woman and The soldiers Mother and the Iraqi woman embracing.
Very moving.