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Offline JB88

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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2005, 01:17:22 AM »
as do neo fascist bullyboys who would erode the basic decency of a great civilization and then backpeddle in a vain attempt to look cute and justified.

not that i know any of those.

what some people call liberals, jefferson would have called americans.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2005, 01:17:36 AM »
The only part I really caught was his warning to syria.  I thaught that was just the right amount of nudging and not too "axis of evil"

other than that I really had no desire to watch it.  As you all know politics just really doesnt do it for me.  ;)

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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2005, 04:29:03 AM »
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It's three hours after Bush's latest State of the Union and not a single Euro or Canadian has started a thread criticizing the speech.

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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2005, 04:33:32 AM »
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It's three hours after Bush's latest State of the Union and not a single Euro or Canadian has started a thread criticizing the speech.
 


Sorry but for me it's as interresting as a Castro speech.
But Bush as more humanity , he don't make 8 hours long speech :)

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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2005, 05:02:38 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2005, 05:38:11 AM »
excellent speech, given better than average with outstanding goals for America and her allies for years to come

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2005, 07:40:12 AM »
And at the same time it came  about 1.2 meters of snow in Bjorli
"western part of norway" it is now 4.5 meters with snow there and it basickly suck for the people living there :D
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2005, 07:56:41 AM »
I haven't seen any liberals that Jefferson would have called Americans except in a broad sense.   He might have called them bad Americans... Jefferson wasn't an effeminate socialist busybody like todays liberals.

I am glad that you admit to hanging out with liberals tho 88.

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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2005, 08:02:47 AM »
did the socially digressive woman hating neo fascist bullyboy say something?

couldnt hear it.

been squelched for some time now.

ahhhh.  

liberty at its finest.

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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2005, 08:09:59 AM »
might wanna update your sarcastic input protocols to some more liberalandmoreinclusive version, wunderparanobot..


btw, got your backpeddle RIGHT HERE.
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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2005, 08:12:59 AM »
wow.  small peddles ya got there.

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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2005, 08:25:03 AM »
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What he said :)

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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2005, 08:38:28 AM »
Actually the neo-fascist bully boys are those who wired a frightened retarded kid with explosives and tried to use him to kill some voters.

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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2005, 09:03:49 AM »
LMAO. Today's conservatives would have been deemed far left liberals in Jefferson's time.
And today's liberals would have probably been considered complete nutjobs.

We, both the left and the right have become more liberal in the last 200+ years not less.

Imagine how the debates of today would have faired in the time of Jefferson.

For example.
Try telling them back  then you want to make gay marriage legal and you would have been laughed at.

Same thing if you wanted all references to God taken out of schools and government places.

Try complaining then that you didn't get a job because of your nationality, race, sex, or religion and the response would have probably been along the lines of "So what"

Far as Im concerned both the diehard left and diehard right are pretty much braindead or at the very least brainwashed.
Each side being so self righteous and so blinded by their own party ideals they refuse to see or give credit for anything the other side says or does.


  Neither side would like who was in office regardless of who is was so long as he wasn't from their party.
And BOTH sides are dragging us down.
Common sense is the least common of the senses in each of these camps.

  I often feel one side takes a position over another side not because it right but simply so they can oppose the other side

  As far as the State of the Union Speech I thought he did pretty good.  And honestly I dont remember hearing him stumble at all in his delivery
  I agreed with most of  what he had to say particularly about Social Security and when he abandoned his Axis of Evil approach with regard to Iran. He separated That government from its people and addressed them as two separate entities.
  Which is something I thought was a huge mistake in his original Axis of Evil speech when he just said "Iran" and didn't distinguish between the regime and its people. When its people at that time were becoming largely pro American.

The two most memorable moments were however the Iraqi Woman and The soldiers Mother and the Iraqi woman embracing.
Very moving.
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2005, 09:10:28 AM »
BTW I feel that the claims of compairing conservatives to facists and Liberals to communists are largely pretty accurate.

And I do enjoy watching both camps stress this point on one another.

thank you for the entertainment :)
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