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« Reply #105 on: February 06, 2005, 08:39:20 PM »
Blow me NUKE.

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« Reply #106 on: February 06, 2005, 08:44:06 PM »
ATA, this is the one and only repsonse I will ever give you.

I think you are a moron. No other response from me.

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« Reply #107 on: February 06, 2005, 08:49:41 PM »
Thats cool,NUKE.I still think you shuold blow me.No need to reply endeed

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« Reply #108 on: February 06, 2005, 09:07:23 PM »
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« Reply #109 on: February 06, 2005, 09:24:10 PM »
Toad,

Most acts of war appear inappropriate when witnessed from the safety of one's living room.

They live with that reality daily - i've been to Russia twice this year. Lets treat people with respect for a change.


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« Reply #110 on: February 06, 2005, 09:29:10 PM »
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Well,originaly i was talking about terorism as it exists today,
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Well, that's what you say NOW. You didn't specify previously.


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but you turned this conversation into "eating book covers".

 
Let's see.. you tell ME to read some books yet you post some obviously completely wrong information.  I have to assume you've not been reading books. If you don't eat the covers, perhaps you're wiping your bum with the pages. Either way, you don't seem to have learned much.


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You went 2000 years back to Novgorod


Here's a great example you've repeated. You say

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Russia was around for 2000 years or so.I never knew they had bombs back then.Read some more books.
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However, the historically accepted birth of the Russian state is the founding Novgorod in 862 by the Viking Rurik of Jutland.

Let's see 2005 - 862 = ?

You do the math. (Clue: the answer is not anywhere near "2000 years". It's a bit more than half that. Clue #2: READ the math book before you use it to wipe your bum.)

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You probly never heard about bodyes with apples instead of guts,skeened alive,crusifide with no hands and legs russian 18 yrs old solders.You cant just be brutal by nature,you brutal for reason.
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Heard about it, seen pictures of it in Afghanistan. However, brutality on the part of your enemy does not mean you must lower yourself to his level. It most CERTAINLY doesn't mean that if you do lower yourself to his level you should be proud of it.... as you are.

You become your enemy when you do that. Probably a tough concept for you to realize, though.  See... you're no better than they are when you do those same things. Did that help? No? Well, perhaps more reading for you.

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I hope this  conversation is over


I guess that depends on whether or not you're done spouting foolish nonsense.

Note to Nuke: You can't let these guys post such Bullshirt without pointing it out. You've heard the old saw about the Big Lie oft repeated.
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« Reply #111 on: February 06, 2005, 09:32:05 PM »
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Thats cool,NUKE.I still think you shuold blow me.No need to reply endeed


With your apparent personality, savoir faire, inherent charm and incredible ability to carry on polite conversation, it looks to me like that's about your only hope of having sex with anything other than a runimant animal.

Keep trying though.
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« Reply #112 on: February 06, 2005, 09:48:15 PM »
Wolf, you equate this with an "act of war"?

TORTURE AND SUMMARY EXECUTION

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The February 2001 discovery of a mass grave containing at least sixty corpses near the Khankala military base created a sensation in the Russian and international media. It was by far not the first of its kind.

Human Rights Watch has documented eight unmarked graves, all found in 2000 and 2001. Memorial Human Rights Center has documented at least one more unmarked grave.155

Human Rights Watch has also documented eight cases when dead bodies were simply dumped by road sides, on hospital grounds or elsewhere. The Memorial Human Rights Center has documented numerous additional cases.

The majority of the bodies showed signs of severe mutilation, including flaying or scalping, broken limbs, severed finger tips and ears, and close range bullet wounds typical of summary executions. Examinations by medical doctors of some of these bodies have revealed that some of the deliberate mutilations were inflicted while the detainees were still alive.

Mass Dumping Site at Dachny Village, near Khankala

At least sixty dead bodies had been recovered from the abandoned summer cottage village of Dachny, less than a kilometer from Khankala military base, as of mid-March 2001.

The overwhelming majority of the corpses-mostly male and ranging in age from eighteen to fifty years-were dressed in civilian clothes, had their hands tied behind their backs and had gunshot wounds. At least thirteen of the bodies belonged to people who were known to have been detained by Russian federal forces and subsequently "disappeared."

TORTURE AND SUMMARY EXECUTION

There's incredible "dirt" on both sides in the Chechen conflict. I don't see how anyone could take pride in sinking to these levels.

I know it happens. Happened on our side in VietNam; the My Lai incident. You sure as heck don't hear Americans bragging proudly about that shameful day.
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« Reply #113 on: February 06, 2005, 09:54:33 PM »
Polite?Didnt he call me moron ?
Still 2000 years or so.......again...i said "so",how many times you pointed out my "illiteracy",is that polite?
Instead of copy and paste try to answer the questions.

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« Reply #114 on: February 06, 2005, 10:00:49 PM »
It makes you happy to point out corrupted russians.I'm sure you much better than that.
i said few times before that we should fix mistakes not judge them,you are the only who seem to disagree.

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« Reply #115 on: February 06, 2005, 10:04:11 PM »
genozaur.
Ya zhivu v providence.Tozhe delat' ne hira.
Ne znayu pochemu ya vyazalsya v etot spor,vse ravno hren che dokazhesh.
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« Reply #116 on: February 06, 2005, 10:14:28 PM »
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I've read quite a few books.

Perhaps you haven't.

If you had, you'd know that terrorism was around long before either Russia or the US were even countries.




From this I guessed you were Russian.




From this I figured you MUST be Russian. Peculiarly, Russians seem obsessed with being more brutal than their enemies and seem to take pride in that.


Toad, the Russian people have been fighting militant islamists for about 1,150 (one thousand one hundred fifty) years.
So, every Russian kid knows that the Russian Army is fighting in order to eliminate inhuman predators (a.k.a. Chechen rebels).
And every Russian soldier fighting in Chechnya knows too well that this war is not a chivalric deed, nor is it a gentlemen's boxing match.
When Russian people are engaged in a war against a mercyless enemy, they know that it is
criminally stupid to let that enemy enjoy the privilege of gentlemen's rules of war.

In this respect I can reiterate the anekdote about a British general who crushed a Muslim 'independence' uprising somewhere in the South-East Asia using simple and effective "strategy". That general ordered that the captured insurgents be shot by the firing squad, their dead bodies rolled up into pig skins and buried in the pits filled with pig dung at the undisclosed locations in the jungles. In this case there is 100% guarantee that the so-called 'martyrs' won't ever get to their Muslim paradise. So, the uprising ended in six months.

You are against such measures. So, please, brace yourself up for another suicide attack.
Because these fathersuckers understand only the overwhelming force. Anything less than that is seen by them as your weakness, i.e. the license for them to humiliate and kill you.
If you don't dig it after all that happened in recent years around the world (I mean all the terrorist activity), you better really shut up, or, as I used to recommend, stick your tongue into
your ace-hole. This may help the rest of the world.

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« Reply #117 on: February 06, 2005, 10:29:01 PM »
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Polite?Didnt he call me moron ?

Still 2000 years or so.......again...i said "so",how many times you pointed out my "illiteracy",is that polite?

Instead of copy and paste try to answer the questions.


You poor soul. Reading isn't a strong point for you, is it?

I've never called anyone a moron on this board. I don't use ad hominem.

Reread the thread and you'll see who called you that.

I can't help it if you continue to confuse 2000 years with 1143 years.

I suppose you think they're the same number? BTW, you ever find any evidence of the US directly killing 200,000 Iraqis? Didn't think so.

Also, if you check, you'll find YOU said:

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Blow me,who cares how mane posts i have?
Yes US started that ****,read a book.



That was the first instance of being impolite here. Of course it was YOU that was impolite. You not only offered a sexual insult but you added an "illiteracy" comment.

So you have only yourself to blame.
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« Reply #118 on: February 06, 2005, 10:29:35 PM »
I just realized that with my ingl i cant win this conversation

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« Reply #119 on: February 06, 2005, 10:31:04 PM »
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It makes you happy to point out corrupted russians.I'm sure you much better than that.
i said few times before that we should fix mistakes not judge them,you are the only who seem to disagree.


If you struggle and reread my posts, you will note that I said the Chechens are just as bad. I also just pointed out that the US has had such incidents, as at My Lai. The difference, of course, is that we are not proud of brutality.

I don't disagree with fixing mistakes. Again, if it seems that way to you it's because you're having trouble reading.

I will suggest to you however that fixing mistakes will probably start with not being proud of those mistakes as you have said you are.
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!