Author Topic: Anyone following the Walmart Unionization in Canada? (Read 5184 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #210 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:20:25 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by oboe
I've read all these posts, and if NUKE is reading them, it appears that nothing that contradicts his predetermined view sinks in.

The one thing I will say in Walmart's defense is, what they are doing is not illegal, right? But certainly unethical, and certainly harming the economic futures of millions of US citizens. So bully for them. If it wasn't them doing it, it'd be some one else. Perhaps the problem is not their behavior, but the fact the we ALLOW their behavior?

My point has been that Walmart is not the problem.

And I do not have a predetermined view, I have my view......not predetermined at all.

Toad · « **Reply #211 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:22:01 PM »

Laugh now Nuke. You won't be so jolly15 years down the road.

My solution? Never said I had one. What I said is that it's not a good thing for one company to have the power in the marketplace that Walmart has now.

You obviously don't read the links to examples of what we're talking about so it really isn't worth putting more information in front of you.

Just enjoy your chuckles now. Later, when you're not feeling so jolly when you see a WalMart sign you can remember this thread.

NUKE · « **Reply #212 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:23:26 PM »

Toad, you are unreal. You think that Walmart is going to bring the US economy down?

Man, you went off the deep end.

Ever think about what REALLY will bring the US economy down? Illegal aliens.

oboe · « **Reply #213 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:24:23 PM »

If that's true NUKE, then perhaps we agree. But I understood your position to be that there is no problem, inspite of all the evidence that Toad and others have presented here.

NUKE · « **Reply #214 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:26:42 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Toad
Laugh now Nuke. You won't be so jolly15 years down the road.

My solution? Never said I had one. What I said is that it's not a good thing for one company to have the power in the marketplace that Walmart has now.

.

Acually, you started this by saying that Walmart should pay higher wages. Right? But, why just Walmart?

You mean to say that you have no idea on how to solve the "problem" ? You can't even offer one idea?

Toad · « **Reply #215 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:27:45 PM »

LOL.

Quote

Federal officials raided Wal-Marts across the nation on October 23, 2003, and proceeded to arrest any illegal immigrants working at the stores. Federal agents arrested illegal aliens from several countries including Mexico and Eastern Europe.

The officials made more than 250 total arrests at 61 stores in 21 states around the United States. “Operation Rollback,” as it was called, began at 4am Eastern Standard Time and lasted for approximately five hours. The arrested workers had just finished their night cleaning shifts when the arrests took place.

"None so blind as those who will not see!".

NUKE · « **Reply #216 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:29:46 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by oboe
If that's true NUKE, then perhaps we agree. But I understood your position to be that there is no problem, inspite of all the evidence that Toad and others have presented here.

I have said that Walmart is not the problem more than once. It's a global economy and Walmart is playing the global market for all they can.

They offer cheap goods that cannot be made in America for the same cost. They buy cheap imported goods instead.

They offer a job for low wages........similar pay for any job of it's kind. They make huge profits.

Nothing wrong with Walmart. Pleanty changing in the global economy.

Toad seems to think Walmart is the cause, I do not.

Suave · « **Reply #217 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:31:06 PM »

Wal-mart would import chinese political prisoners on a work release program if they thought they could get away with it.

Toad · « **Reply #218 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:31:58 PM »

Oh, I could come up with some ideas.

But what would be the point? You don't read the other information folks have handed you on a silver platter.

Nuke, I'm so sorry but I guess I've changed. I used to be willing to engage in debate with most anyone.

Lately though people that are knowingly intellectually dishonest in their posts, people that refuse to educate themselves to at least some extent on the opposite side of the issue in question, people that just post to stir the pot, people that post outrageously just to draw a reaction, etc., etc., just aren't worth my time.

I am not saying you're any or all of those. I'm just saying......... I don't want to waste my time.

NUKE · « **Reply #219 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:32:07 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Toad
LOL.

"None so blind as those who will not see!".

Guess what? The construction and agricultural fields have FAR more illegal aliens taking skilled labor jobs away from Americans.....not just Walmart watermelon jobs, but construction and labor jobs that used to pay good money.

But, you see Walmart as the US economys downfall. More power to you.

Toad · « **Reply #220 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:33:27 PM »

Thank you for making my point so well. You've just validated both of my two previous posts.

NUKE · « **Reply #221 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:40:06 PM »

Toad, be simple minded then.

Go ahead and point to Walmart and say that they are the reason the US economy and way of life is going away. I say you are rediculous to make that claim.

I say that Walmart is not the problem. The global economy and cheap foreign labor are the "problem"

Walmart offers jobs and pay at competitive rates.....otherwise nobody would be working there.

Walmart also buys cheap foreign goods, which hurts American companies that can't offer the same price......but that has nothing to do with Walmart and is not Walmart's problem.

You also stated that you think Walmart needs to pay their employees more. I ask, why?

Suave · « **Reply #222 on:** February 12, 2005, 07:40:44 PM »

Toad it's not for Nuke's sake. Threads like these are meaningfull in that they may enlighten the readers.

Toad · « **Reply #223 on:** February 12, 2005, 08:16:51 PM »

Suave, it's not worth my time anymore.

Experience is the best teacher, it's just rarely the cheapest.

He'll learn.

Thrawn · « **Reply #224 on:** February 12, 2005, 08:26:41 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by NUKE
real bright answer.

Walmart is responsible for 2 % of the US's GDP. Tell me how that hurts the US ecomomy. Not to mention all the cheap goods they offer people.....people that need to stretch their dollar.

Which part of the GDP?