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Offline FX1

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« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2005, 11:59:19 PM »
I think this tread has made people think about the ho shot. Not once in two night have i been HO'ed not because i am avoid it different. I have had some front shot but not a tru ho shot's. WTG everyone
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« Reply #91 on: February 24, 2005, 02:00:30 AM »
I will quote P51 pilot WWI ace Chuck Yeager on his shooting down a 262 that was about to land..

"It wasn't very sportsmen like, but oh well" - Mil channel show "Target Berlin"
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« Reply #92 on: February 24, 2005, 02:07:21 AM »
just fly a Spit V, and all will be balanced in the world again. I PROMISE!


ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM, off i go in my 190a9 :p



PS: im no longer a reg around here, but damn if the BK's just are not in droves in every post i read. You guys fly and post at the same time or what:p
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« Reply #93 on: February 24, 2005, 02:16:28 AM »
O ya Morph,
Thanks for checking into that gun for me bro.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #94 on: February 24, 2005, 04:37:56 AM »
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I think this tread has made people think about the ho shot. Not once in two night have i been HO'ed not because i am avoid it different. I have had some front shot but not a tru ho shot's. WTG everyone


Oookay...
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« Reply #95 on: February 24, 2005, 05:49:16 AM »
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FX1, as several above have said it's relatively easy to dodge a HO once you know how, then the HO becomes a moot point.   Many people who try to dodge the HO start far too late.  It's best to start manouvering at atleast 2k out. You give them a low % shot, you gain the angle.  Unless a plane is under say 160mph a HO can be avoided.  

I only ever go for the HO/front quarter shot if the other guy can't get his guns on me.  This includes if he is trying to avoid it.  It sounds harsh, but if a guy is going to give me an easy shot with no risk to myself i'll take it.  If it looks like he's gonna attempt to HO me i'll dodge it.


IMO, it isn't a HO if only one guy has a shot.  If only one can shoot, it's a front-quarter deflection shot.

Both are fair game, anyway.



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Offline Jackal1

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« Reply #96 on: February 24, 2005, 07:24:44 AM »
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I guess Hitech will not address the issue but what is the bbs good for.  


HiTech has allready addressed the issue on page one of this thread. You miss it or something?

 
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And create another frustration, move the play advantge to the slow turn fighters.

I rember very well the no head on code in AW, as a ropa doper in FW, and F4's it me very frustrated me greatly to have a guy supspended totaly still in mid air, and not be able to shoot him because he had his nose point some what towards me.

2nd the aim point between AW and AH are drasticly different.
3rd in AW you didn't have to worry about colliding with the other guy.

Finaly If you are just fairly new, and aw was the last thing you played, You still have realy bad habits about the merge that you need to adjust.

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« Reply #97 on: February 24, 2005, 07:42:47 AM »
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May have been, but a good 38 Pilot or F6F pilot would own a spit any day of the week in AW.


Hondo, that avatar. It's only a computer animation but my god is it distracting...
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Offline dedalos

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« Reply #98 on: February 24, 2005, 09:16:12 AM »
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HOW THE HECK WILL I GET KILLS IF THEY TAKE AWAY HEAD ON SHOTS???


Try vulching :D
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Dedalos pretty much ruined DA.

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« Reply #99 on: February 24, 2005, 09:24:30 AM »
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dedalos filth has it right.  the basic principle is- While the con is trying to shoot you, you have already completed half of a circle to get on his 6.  

Edit:  look at it this way- who will be able to pull a tighter circle on the merge? the guy at 450mph with his nose pointed at the floor trying for the shot, or the guy with his nose pointing upwards who can bleed E faster.


OK, I was trolling.  We should try it some time in the DA.  You will see that if the HOer knows what he is doing and is in the right plane, he will end up with the advantage if you don't die from the HO.

I can't explain it here (too many words :D) but if you want to try it let me know.  You may win, but it wont be as easy as they make it sound.
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« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2005, 09:31:56 AM »
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OK, I was trolling.  We should try it some time in the DA.  You will see that if the HOer knows what he is doing and is in the right plane, he will end up with the advantage if you don't die from the HO.

I can't explain it here (too many words :D) but if you want to try it let me know.  You may win, but it wont be as easy as they make it sound.


Your labotomy is scheduled ... it's a week from tomorrow.
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« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2005, 09:39:02 AM »
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Your labotomy is scheduled ... it's a week from tomorrow.


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« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2005, 10:35:50 AM »
lobotomy? i had colonic irrigation written down.  You evil troll dedalos, i really should have suspected but i gave you the benefit of the doubt heheh.

We can try it in DA if you like,  i'll even fly the mossie. :)  ph33r teh mozzar!!

It will be funny if you set me on fire with the HO though.:D
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Offline debuman

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« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2005, 11:18:20 AM »
Every time I see somebody whine on ch. 200 about getting HO'ed, I just shake my head and think, "they lost the HO and now they're complaining abouut it!"  In order to get HO'ed, they also had to be pointing thier nose at the other aircraft.  So, what then are they really complaining about?  The only ones you ever see complain are the ones who lose the HO - have you ever seen on ch. 200 something like the following?

"Dammit - I just ho'ed that Spit! - why don't I learn some ACM?"

No, just from the ones who lose...

On the same note - I get a chuckle from all the following types of whines I read:

"Nice Ram"
"Nice Vulch"
"Nice Cherry Pick"

Why don't you just rent a big space on the MOTD and tell everyone that you just got KILLED?  Why broadcast that you got shot down?  Maybe these are the egomaniacs that can't even condone the thought that someone else might have been better than them for a moment, or feel the need to rationalize their death to anybody else that might have seen it......

Hint:  If you don't broadcast stuff like "Nice (ram, pick, vulch, etc.) on Channel 200 - nobody is gonna know you got killed!

Ok, back to the offline game to practice HOing the drones....:)
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« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2005, 11:38:54 AM »
"Nice Ram"
"Nice Vulch"
"Nice Cherry Pick"

Those are your problems I Vulch, I Cherry pick if get rammed most of the time it was not intended. This is not a whine tread it’s for the people that use the Ho as their 1# tactic.
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