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Offline FX1

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« on: February 22, 2005, 02:48:23 PM »
What do we need to change? In my opponent Aces high is a great game but there are some issues that do need adjustments. For starters this is a game and needs to stay that way. Modeling should be number 1# with fighters and bombers HTC is on the right track but we could always use some more info and input. My first change would be with HO shots I would say that 80% 1v1 merge are ho’s. This just makes most people PO and doesn’t help out game play one bit. I know that in ww2 10% of kills were because of ho’s and should be the percentage in the game as well not what its like today. GV are part of the game but this is a flight sim ww2ol is a GV sim this is why I don’t play it I like fighters. Porking has gone way out of hand barracks should only be taken out by bombs that would lead to mission devoted to this mission not one person porking 3 base in one flight. In AW we didn’t have a super plane like the la7, it needs to be perked I don’t care what anybody has to say about this la7 are way out of hand and needs to be addressed. In my mined AW was the best flight sim ever but Aces high can become better with not that many changes. STOP THE HO SHOT would be a start our make them harder. All I listen to on vox is “I got ho’ed” and I am personally pissed about it.

Their has been to many time that I have been in a magnificent fight then just to get ho’ed by a LA7 before I pulled the trigger on a good pilot that I have been battling with for 10mins. Let me have a chance to finish the fight and see if that la7 can get on my six. If he can I will him. Not to die not knowing the pilot that was a great opponent but to see “system 2weeknewb shot you down”.  In AW this wouldn’t have happened. PS it could but only if I was stupid (:

Let’s make the fight’s better

BTW to the bish f6f pilot last night, great flyn to bad i got Ho'ed

Offline mechanic

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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2005, 02:56:55 PM »
:lol

good post

if hes a 2week newb you should kill him anyway, expect the HO always and judge your opponent by his merge :)

perk some more planes HT, go on, we dare ya.
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2005, 03:13:43 PM »
I hate to say it, but your biggest complaint has nothing to do with the game, and everything to do with the people in it.

Yes, I'd be willing to put money down that in real life, there were far less kills by HO. However, that is because the fear of DEATH generally caused a pilot to be wary of getting anywhere near an opponent's guns.

Unfortunately, this is a game. The risk of real death is not there, and you will have people using tactics that would not have worked quite as well in real life. Instead of complaining about the HO and saying "something must be done", how about some ideas for stopping it?

Also, do not confuse a HO with someone coming in to help a squad/country mate. Heading towards each other on merge is a HO. Happening to loop into the direct path of a BnZ'ing Typhoon, trying to clear his countrymate's 6 is NOT. There's a subtle difference, even though the result generally feels the same.
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2005, 03:20:07 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmm...... ................Ummmmmm........If X equals Y then.......  .........OK OK mined=mind......yea, yea got that one.
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Offline FX1

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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2005, 03:22:27 PM »
It just a figure of speech I always try and avoid a ho but sometimes that’s all people go for. Yes last night in that fight I was so involved that the la7 had a chance to get up and run us down and ho’ed and their wasnt anything i could do but hope that he missed. I only wish I had film you could see why I was pissed off so bad. We could eliminate a major portion of frustration because of this one problem. Fights would last longer better tactics would be involved because you would need to win the fight! I don’t know one person that likes to be ho’ed do you? I think it also run’s people away from the game our is one reason some people stop flyn. But what do I know I have only been on for almost 4 month’s

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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2005, 03:41:05 PM »
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We could eliminate a major portion of frustration because of this one problem


And create another frustration,  move the play advantge to the slow turn fighters.

 I rember very well the no head on code in AW, as a ropa doper in FW, and F4's it me very frustrated me greatly to have a guy supspended totaly still in mid air, and not be able to shoot him because he had his nose point some what towards me.

2nd the aim point between AW and AH are drasticly different.
3rd in AW you didn't have to worry about colliding with the other guy.

Finaly If you are just fairly new, and aw was the last thing you played, You still have realy bad habits about the merge that you need to adjust.

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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2005, 03:53:10 PM »
Well ... its sounds like you got into a good fight ... got so engrossed in the fight that you threw any and all SA out the window ... and a screaming La-7 comes in a wacks ya.

Sorry ... but shame on you .. you got target fixated and got picked.

Are you sure it was an HO ? ... could you have shot him at the exact same time he shot at you ? If so ... you shoulda face shot the bastage ... If not ... then it wasn't an HO.

On one hand I abhor the HO weenies that saturate the MA ... on the other hand ... I love spanking them in 1-2 turns after the HO.

I would much rather avoid HOs myself than to have HT put some funcky piece of coad that stops it ... that would be totally ghey.
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2005, 04:05:13 PM »
I hate to say it, but your biggest complaint has nothing to do with the game, and everything to do with the people in it.


Its part of the game yes.

Take it away and you will have one less problem with a person.

In AW I loved the merge, your heart rate goes up and you’re thinking what’s going to be my first move, what his he going to do. Makes me have goose bumps thinking about it.

In AH , o crap he is going to ho and he going to extend and try it once more..

Yes good pilots will not ho I am not worried about them it’s the other 80% that need to learn not to. I was thinking about this after our first squad duel when I knew no body was going to ho on the merge. It felt good!

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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2005, 04:13:12 PM »
HT and the others are right.  It's not the game but the way people fly.  We do things that in RL pilots would not even concider doing or would get grownded for doing.  I get PO when I get hoed since I am trying not to fire when I come face to face with some one, but it happens.
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2005, 04:13:59 PM »
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Yes good pilots will not ho I am not worried about them it’s the other 80% that need to learn not to.  


More importantly, good pilots won't get nailed by the HO. I still find the merge to be exciting, especially if it's a 1v1 situation and you know that it's going to be a battle. The only difference between merging in AH, and Merging in AW, is that I'm not going to point my face at his face.

Give it a little rudder and a zero G Dive. Get verticle seperation before you cross. Assume they are going to HO every time, and learn how to merge without becoming exposed. That's the only advice I can give on the issue. I used to hate all the HOing, but now I only notice the sound of their guns as they go blazing by.

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2005, 04:16:49 PM »
I don't think he is talking about HOs on the merge
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2005, 04:21:13 PM »
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I don't think he is talking about HOs on the merge


He was expressly talking about the Merge in his last post.

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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2005, 04:21:15 PM »
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In AW we didn’t have a super plane like the la7



Yes we did.  It was called the DWEEBfire.



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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2005, 04:25:36 PM »
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He was expressly talking about the Merge in his last post.

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you are right.  I went of the original post or atlist this is how I understood it.  In any case, avoiding the HO at the merge is easy.  I could not say the same for a HO thats a result of a second guy jumping in while you are in a turn fight.

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« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2005, 04:27:44 PM »
first fuel couldnt be porked
now you want barracks too?

they are WOODEN huts, of coarse a 20mm or 30mm round will kill them, let alone a rocket.
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