Author Topic: Who served? (Read 3000 times)

Martlet · « **Reply #30 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:14:12 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Zulu7

I think the French have a better attitude.

Of course you do.

Again, that's SOP for moonbats.

Zulu7 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:16:19 PM »

Martlet any chance of a considered response. A coherent argument for your case? Or Do I just get the usual poop from your keyboard? I'm losing respect for you fast here.

Martlet · « **Reply #32 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:17:15 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Zulu7
Martlet any chance of a considered response. A coherent argument for your case? Or Do I just get the usual poop from your keyboard? I'm losing respect for you fast here.

When you get to "no respect", then our feelings will be mutual.

greentail · « **Reply #33 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:17:55 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Martlet
Rather than look at greenhead's propaganda page, let's take a look at government's own demographics page for the 108th Congress, even BEFORE it was updated.

Looks a little difference than greenie's brainwash soup.

Martlet,
You miss the point.
What does this page say about the Republican leadership ? My post was concerning the Republican Party leadership.

Shall we run it down, Martlet? Please feel free to refute this.

Present day or recent Republican leadership:

George W. Bush -- deserter, AWOL, whatever, he didn't fnish his service
Dick Cheney -- no service
Karl Rove -- no service
Dennis Hastert -- no service
Dick Armey -- no service
Tom Delay -- no service
Bill Frist -- no service
Trent Lott -- no service
John Ashcroft -- no service
Newt Gingrich -- no service
Phil Gramm -- no service
Mitch McConnell -- no service
Roy Blunt -- no service
Paul Wolfowitz -- no service
Richard Perle -- no service
Jeff Gannon -- serviced W.ho?

It's not all bad, of course:
Donald Rumsfeld -- US Navy
Duke Cunningham -- Navy Cross!
John McCain -- served, captured, tortured, then smeared by W.
Bob Dole -- US Army, Purple Heart
George H.W. Bush -- US Navy

Here's my favorite:

Ronald Reagan -- made movies in Hollywood during WWII.

George S. McGovern -- Distinguished Flying Cross, Silver Star, Purple Heart, wounded in action over occupied Europe flying B-24s.

Come on Martlet, refute that.

Martlet · « **Reply #34 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:18:46 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by greentail
Martlet,
You miss the point.
What does this page say about the Republican leadership ? My post was concerning the Republican Party leadership.

Shall we run it down, Martlet? Please feel free to refute this.

Present day or recent Republican leadership:

George W. Bush -- deserter, AWOL, whatever, he didn't fnish his service
Dick Cheney -- no service
Karl Rove -- no service
Dennis Hastert -- no service
Dick Armey -- no service
Tom Delay -- no service
Bill Frist -- no service
Trent Lott -- no service
John Ashcroft -- no service
Newt Gingrich -- no service
Phil Gramm -- no service
Mitch McConnell -- no service
Roy Blunt -- no service
Paul Wolfowitz -- no service
Richard Perle -- no service
Jeff Gannon -- serviced W.ho?

It's not all bad, of course:
Donald Rumsfeld -- US Navy
Duke Cunningham -- Navy Cross!
John McCain -- served, captured, tortured, then smeared by W.
Bob Dole -- US Army, Purple Heart
George H.W. Bush -- US Navy

Here's my favorite:

Ronald Reagan -- made movies in Hollywood during WWII.

George S. McGovern -- Distinguished Flying Cross, Silver Star, Purple Heart, wounded in action over occupied Europe flying B-24s.

Come on Martlet, refute that.

Here's a better idea.

You establish it's relevance, and I'll bother refuting it.

While you're at it, make it accurate.

Zulu7 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:20:55 PM »

So explain yourself Mr martlet why no respect?

Rino · « **Reply #36 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:23:24 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Zulu7
They shouldn't be digging for dirt. They should be focusing on the question is this guy running the country well. That is the issue full stop for me. If he isn't then he should go. If he is then stay.

If the media weren't so obsessed with the dirt then we would never have been any wiser and the family could have dealt with it in their own way in their own time without all the nasty voyeristic rubbish that ensued. President or pauper these are still people.

The French laugh at the US and UK. I saw a guy from the French press being interviewed on our news the other day and he was saying that he thinks that our press act like young teenagers who've discovered sex for the first time and are obsessed by it. In France they accept it as part of life. Fun yes beautiful yes but not that important compared to other things.

I think the French have a better attitude.

Coming from a guy who thinks the US president needs to
answer to a non-citizen concerning his policies, I'm not surprised
you appreciate the French view.

They accept alot of things in France, doesn't mean they're
correct.

RedTop · « **Reply #37 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:26:39 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Zulu7
They shouldn't be digging for dirt. They should be focusing on the question is this guy running the country well. That is the issue full stop for me. If he isn't then he should go. If he is then stay.

If the media weren't so obsessed with the dirt then we would never have been any wiser and the family could have dealt with it in their own way in their own time without all the nasty voyeristic rubbish that ensued. President or pauper these are still people.

The French laugh at the US and UK. I saw a guy from the French press being interviewed on our news the other day and he was saying that he thinks that our press act like young teenagers who've discovered sex for the first time and are obsessed by it. In France they accept it as part of life. Fun yes beautiful yes but not that important compared to other things.

I think the French have a better attitude.

Well it would be nice if records of politicians were what was the most important things. However , being realistic , they aren't.

As soon as a politician opens his/her mouth and states their personal beleifs , then all bets are off. At that point it gives the media a starting point to start looking for that dirt that can make them look 2 faced and a hypocrit. It is a visious cycle.

We as people , either take it as fact , or with a grain of salt. I tend to take most with a grain. Not all but most. I have my belief system and tend to vote and lean towards those that share it. Or , at least close to it.

Thanks for the responses.

Zulu7 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:27:39 PM »

Pleasure Red top. respect is due.

Now Rino

A president who uses his military to enforce his view of the world on others is answerable or should be to us all. Particularly my nation as our troops are fighting alongside said presidents troops. And the people of our nation would genuinely quite like to know why they are there and many of us are not at all sure they should be there.

greentail · « **Reply #39 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:27:48 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Martlet
Here's a better idea.

You establish it's relevance, and I'll bother refuting it.

While you're at it, make it accurate.

I'm very open minded. Please feel free to point out any inaccuracies.

Martlet · « **Reply #40 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:29:48 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by greentail
I'm very open minded. Please feel free to point out any inaccuracies.

Rather than run through all of them, let's just start with the first name on the list.

In the list cited, Bush is put in the "bad service/didn't serve column for leaving the service early. Kerry isn't.

Now, let's get back to you establishing the relevance.

RedTop · « **Reply #41 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:33:20 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Martlet
Rather than run through all of them, let's just start with the first name on the list.

In the list cited, Bush is put in the "bad service/didn't serve column for leaving the service early. Kerry isn't.

Now, let's get back to you establishing the relevance.

Man has a point there Green:lol

BTW Green...have you served in the Military?

Gunslinger · « **Reply #42 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:34:53 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Zulu7
Pleasure Red top. respect is due.

Now Rino

A president who uses his military to enforce his view of the world on others is answerable or should be to us all. Particularly my nation as our troops are fighting alongside said presidents troops. And the people of our nation would genuinely quite like to know why they are there and many of us are not at all sure they should be there.

zulu do you discount the theory that democracy is needed in the middle east and that Iraq could be the regional "spark" that makes it happen?

I'm assuming here that you are not American....that said wouldn't you hold YOUR leaders accountable because it is THEM that sent your country's troops there and not ours?

PS I am a conservative leaning libertarian and yes I served and still do to this day 9 years active duty so far.

rpm · « **Reply #43 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:36:13 PM »

Maybe Kerry isn't there because it's a list of Republicans. Nice tap dance to avoid the issue. Answer the question and quit dancing.

Martlet · « **Reply #44 on:** February 25, 2005, 08:38:57 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by rpm
Maybe Kerry isn't there because it's a list of Republicans. Nice tap dance to avoid the issue. Answer the question and quit dancing.

Maybe you should actually read the link that he ripped that from, before you make yourself look any dumber.