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Offline greentail

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« Reply #75 on: February 25, 2005, 09:21:49 PM »
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Yep, Kerry left early with a batch of Purple Hearts. No arguement.


Kerry did not leave early.

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/service.html
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« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2005, 09:26:23 PM »
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The only false information posted here so far has come from you.

Please show where the false information in the list of Republican leaders lack of military service is.

You said Kerry did not serve a full tour in Vietnam. That is false. Back up your claim if you can.



Sure.  
Here's a run down of Kerry's service.  

You must get pretty tired of looking stupid.
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« Reply #77 on: February 25, 2005, 09:27:21 PM »
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Kerry did not leave early.

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_kerry/service.html


HAHAHAHAHAHA!

What dates did he serve, again?
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« Reply #78 on: February 25, 2005, 09:28:51 PM »
Stop argueing with him Martlet, RPM is right, Bush did leave under questionable circumstances.  I saw it on 60 minutes.

Here is the quote I posted in the deleted thread:
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http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RS21379.pdf
There are 153 Members of the 108th Congress who have had some form of military service, some 14 fewer than in the 107th Congress. The House has 117 veterans: 69 Republicans and 48 Democrats, including one woman, who is a Republican. In the Senate, 35 Members are veterans: 19 Republicans and 16 Democrats. They have served in World War II, the Korean War, Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, and Kosovo, and during times of peace, as well as in the Reserves and the National Guard. One Senator is a former Secretary of the Navy. There has been a steady decline in the number of Members who have served in the military, which may be attributed in part to the end of the Selective Service System draft in 1973.  


You will note that more Republicans (88) than Democrats (64) serving in Congress.

The Democratic Leadership in the House is leader Nancy Pelosi (California)
The House Minority Whip is Steny H. Hoyer (Maryland)
The Senate Minority Leader is Harry Reid, (Nevada)
The Senate Minority Whip is Dick Durban (Illinios)

These 4 highest ranking Democartic members of Congress did not serve in the military.


And Greentail, Congress is our leadership.  We elect them for that purpose.
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« Reply #79 on: February 25, 2005, 09:31:20 PM »
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Sure.  
Here's a run down of Kerry's service.  

You must get pretty tired of looking stupid.


From the cited website:

"His first Navy tour of duty... "

Let's look at that one more time:

"His first Navy tour of duty..."

OK. Seems to say he served more than one tour now, doesn't it?

Now, who's stupid?
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« Reply #80 on: February 25, 2005, 09:33:47 PM »
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From the cited website:

"His first Navy tour of duty... "

Let's look at that one more time:

"His first Navy tour of duty..."

OK. Seems to say he served more than one tour now, doesn't it?

Now, who's stupid?


Um, you, unless the Navy is now Vietnam and I didn't know it.

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Maybe because Kerry served more than a full tour in Vietnam?
 
 


Here's another quote from that site:

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He requested and gained this early transfer back home and left his boat crew behind eight months before the end of his Vietnam tour of duty.
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« Reply #81 on: February 25, 2005, 09:41:08 PM »
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Stop argueing with him Martlet, RPM is right, Bush did leave under questionable circumstances.  I saw it on 60 minutes.

Here is the quote I posted in the deleted thread:


You will note that more Republicans (88) than Democrats (64) serving in Congress.

The Democratic Leadership in the House is leader Nancy Pelosi (California)
The House Minority Whip is Steny H. Hoyer (Maryland)
The Senate Minority Leader is Harry Reid, (Nevada)
The Senate Minority Whip is Dick Durban (Illinios)

These 4 highest ranking Democartic members of Congress did not serve in the military.


And Greentail, Congress is our leadership.  We elect them for that purpose.


There was never a question of Republican patriotism. In the deleted thread the Democrats were called the anti-war party. I just though it interesting that more of their leadership had served in the armed forces than had Republican leadership.
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« Reply #82 on: February 25, 2005, 09:42:43 PM »
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I just though it interesting that more of their leadership had served in the armed forces than had Republican leadership.


As Holden pointed out, that isn't, in fact, the case.
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« Reply #83 on: February 25, 2005, 09:50:50 PM »
88 > 64

0 for 4 in the top Demo Congressional leadership positions.

Howard Dean, new Democratic Party Chairman, no military service.

0 for 5 in top Demo positions.
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« Reply #84 on: February 25, 2005, 09:56:56 PM »
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Um, you, unless the Navy is now Vietnam and I didn't know it.



Here's another quote from that site:


Martlet,

Nice spin, but it doesn't work, my friend. You claimed he left early. I showed he did more than one tour. The very website you posted backed me up.

Spin away, amigo.
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« Reply #85 on: February 25, 2005, 09:58:35 PM »
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In the deleted thread someone called the Democrats the anti-war party.  


I got news for ya Braincloud- Kerry, Feinstein, Boxer and 98 out of 100 of the US Senate voted to invade Iraq.

It crossed party lines, Bubba. It had overwhelmong support. Don't try to reinvent the past, especially the most recent past.
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« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2005, 10:00:29 PM »
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Originally posted by greentail
Martlet,

Nice spin, but it doesn't work, my friend. You claimed he left early. I showed he did more than one tour. The very website you posted backed me up.

Spin away, amigo.


Um, you've shown nothing.  Saying you are right doesn't make it so.

You said he did more than one tour in Vietnam.  I said he didn't.

He did numerous tours in the Navy at various duty stations.  However, he only completed less than 4 months of a 12 month tour in Vietnam.

The website I linked to shows I'm right.  Unless, of course, you can show me where it says otherwise.
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« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2005, 10:04:30 PM »
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As Holden pointed out, that isn't, in fact, the case.


Recent Democratic congressional leadership:

Dick Gephardt -- Air National guard
David Bonior -- USAF
Tom Daschle -- USAF
Al Gore -- US Army
Bob kerrey -- USN
John Kerry -- USN
Tom Harkin -- USN
Jack Reed -- Ranger
Gray Davis -- US Army
Wesley Clark
Max Clelland --  left two legs and an arm in Vietnam

Holden is correct, as now presently constituted the Dems and Repubs are tied 0 to 0.
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« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2005, 10:06:12 PM »
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I got news for ya Braincloud- Kerry, Feinstein, Boxer and 98 out of 100 of the US Senate voted to invade Iraq.

It crossed party lines, Bubba. It had overwhelmong support. Don't try to reinvent the past, especially the most recent past.


Well, that is sort of my point! Why call them the anti-war party, when they not only vote for war, but unlike the Republicans, they go and fight!
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« Reply #89 on: February 25, 2005, 10:07:06 PM »
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Well, that is sort of my point! Why call them the anti-war party, when they not only vote for war, but unlike the Republicans, they go and fight!


Um, as Holden pointed out, there are more Republican Veteran's than Democrat.
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