Author Topic: And he won't get the death penaly for this? (Read 12806 times)

Martlet · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2005, 10:54:38 AM »

When I was 11 I knew it was wrong to murder people.

OIO · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:11:46 AM »

when you were 11 your emotions ruled your actions far more than they do now.

Kids function on emotions and instinct... i think its not until you're 16 that you develop a concience and have your brain take over the decision making proccess.

I remember in middle school there were a bunch of kids who were beyond bullish. I remember the *total* hatred I felt towards them, and I have no doubt that if I had had a weapon with me when they picked on me I wouldve used it with a big smile on my face.

One of them died in an accident in my junior year of high school (back home we're stuck with the same people from primary to high school..so we grow up together). While everyone else cried and grieved I felt...relieved and glad he was dead.

Horrible of me to feel like that now that I think back on it... but back then... heck, I had to supress smiling on his memorial service held in school.

I think anyone over 16 should be tried and sentenced as an adult.

Martlet · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:14:03 AM »

Many murders by adults are emotion based.

When I was 11 I knew it was wrong to murder people.

john9001 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:25:48 AM »

when i was little kid , i had access to guns, but i never killed anyone BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS WRONG,

idiots, "but he was such a good boy", "he's only a baby", "he didn't know what he was doing"

he knew , and he knew he could get away with it.

i wonder how many people would change their mind if it was their wife, sister, mother that he shot?

Martlet · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:27:00 AM »

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Originally posted by john9001
when i was little kid , i had access to guns, but i never killed anyone BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS WRONG,

idiots, "but he was such a good boy", "he's only a baby", "he didn't know what he was doing"

he knew , and he knew he could get away with it.

i wonder how many people would change their mind if it was their wife, sister, mother that he shot?

Exactly. I fired my first gun before I started school. I received my first gun on my tenth birthday.

I never shot anyone.

Habu · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:39:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Mickey1992
A 14 year-old? I would be happy with life in prison, along with the person he got the gun from.

"None of the 24 students on the bus, ranging in ages from 5 to 17, were hurt."

It should be "WAS hurt". "None" is singular.

Actually the sentence is correct. If you wanted to say was hurt you could change it to

Not one of the 24 students on the bus, who ranged in age from 5 to 17 was hurt.

Engine · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2005, 11:53:02 AM »

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Originally posted by OIO
when you were 11 your emotions ruled your actions far more than they do now.

Kids function on emotions and instinct... i think its not until you're 16 that you develop a concience and have your brain take over the decision making proccess.

Wow, you didn't know right from wrong until 16? What a messed up kid you must've been.

Like Martlet, I had a pretty good idea murder was wrong when I was 11. This is something so amazingly basic, I have a hard time believing that you don't grasp that EVERYONE should understand such a basic concept before their teens. And more importantly, than when murder is committed, at any age, there should be repercussions. Severe repercussions. Like death.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:15:16 PM »

So just because their brains run more on emotion then ours do they should be free from punishment?

Trell · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:39:33 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
So just because their brains run more on emotion then ours do they should be free from punishment?

Not free from punishment, But a punishment that fits more with being a child. then the punishment that effects who has lived in the real world, and had it help shape the way he is.

As a child you are shapped by your parents with out alot of choice. As an adult, you have no excuse for your actions.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:41:34 PM »

Trell
So you would be ok with a 14 year old getting out after a murder like this at 18 cause at 18 your juvi record is closed, and living next to you?

You think juvi prison will reform him enough to be near your loved ones?

Martlet · « **Reply #25 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:42:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Trell
Not free from punishment, But a punishment that fits more with being a child. then the punishment that effects who has lived in the real world, and had it help shape the way he is.

As a child you are shapped by your parents with out alot of choice. As an adult, you have no excuse for your actions.

So you propose we arrest and execute the parents instead?

Trell · « **Reply #26 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:45:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Engine
Wow, you didn't know right from wrong until 16? What a messed up kid you must've been.

Like Martlet, I had a pretty good idea murder was wrong when I was 11. This is something so amazingly basic, I have a hard time believing that you don't grasp that EVERYONE should understand such a basic concept before their teens. And more importantly, than when murder is committed, at any age, there should be repercussions. Severe repercussions. Like death.

Did you ever drink before the age of 21? or steal lawn gnomes just to see the reaction of the owener. What about stealing shopping carts and or anything else that you did when you were a child, that you look back on and just cringe. all the things that if done at the age you are now, could put you in jail.

I used to take out those big construction barrels with my care when i was 16. It was a stupid and dangerous thing to do. and would probably be a felony now....

I never did anything as vilont as shooting someone. but just looking back at some of the things i thought was fun doing back then. i know i am a changed person.

the same goes for the child murder.

Martlet · « **Reply #27 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:47:04 PM »

He got you there, Engine. The old "stealing lawn gnomes is the same as murder" trick. You fell for it, too.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:48:00 PM »

BS
your saying that murder is just something a kid may do cause they are to dumb to know better.

That is crap. Some things even kids know are bad. If you didnt know murder was bad as a kid there was something very wrong with you.

Trell · « **Reply #29 on:** March 03, 2005, 12:50:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Martlet
So you propose we arrest and execute the parents instead?

No i propose we take the kid. depending on the crime. and lock him up. but not for life. not in an adult jail. They are a child they can still be taught right from wrong. they need help. not a death sentance..

When I was a child I spoke as a child I understood as a child I thought as a child; but when I became a man I put away childish things.

At what age do we consider childern men???. 18, 16? 11?

I believe they have charged childern as young as 7 as adults..... that is sad.